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Old 09-05-2006, 04:52 AM   #10
Hippikos
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So we're up to *three* football fields now? It was two last time. Will it be four on the next round? Since you're so jiggy with the effective radius, what's the CEP on one of these delivered from an F-16?
This is what I wrote: “…can be as large as two or three football fields” try to keep up with reality for once, MaggieL.
Cluster bombs are delivered either by aircraft, rocket or by artillerie. Since we are talking numbers, less than 50 Israelian civillians died, over a 1000 Lebanese civillians died. Does that mean Israel did a better job with a more effective radius?
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The actual number is more like 5%. Where are you getting your numbers?
Here:
“We're finding strikes that are in people's houses, in the middle of the street, around hospitals," said Chris Clark, program manager of the UN Mine Action Co-ordination Center in southern Lebanon. Approximately 250,000 Lebanese of the one million displaced cannot move back into their homes, many because of unexploded munitions.

An unusual number of cluster bombs used in the war did not detonate on impact, possibly because they were old, Mr Egeland said. Usually 10-15 per cent of the bomblets fail to explode immediately. According to some estimates, up to 70 per cent of the Israeli bomblets failed to explode initially. Civilians returning to their homes in southern Lebanon are experiencing "massive problems," as a result of these unexploded munitions, Mr Egeland said.” (Times Online)

Usually between 20 and 30% are duds, but it seem Israel has used old cluster bombs resulting in a higher number of unexploded bomblets. UN says it was 70%, I kept it a little more conservative.
Cluster bombs disperse widely and are difficult to target precisely, they are especially dangerous when used near civilian areas. In addition, they are prone to failure: if the container opens at the wrong height, or the bomblets don't fuse properly, or their descent is broken by trees, or they land on soft ground - they may not detonate. This risk is known to the military who ordered to use it.
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And who will investigate what Hezbollah has been doing? Oh...that's right...
You see, MaggieL, contrary what you do with Israel, I never whitewashed what Hezbollah did. I accuse both sides of atrocities against civillians, albeit Israel on a MUCH larger scale.
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