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Old 01-11-2007, 11:02 PM   #1
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Parents and teachers have a big impact but the whole social situation will weigh more. I gaurantee there is the same amount of corruption in suburban schools as in inner city schools yet one outperforms the other by a huge margin. Social forces outweighs this example and there is no way around it.

tw, are you arguing my point or backing it up? We were saying the same thing.
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:26 PM   #2
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tw, are you arguing my point or backing it up? We were saying the same thing.
We conflict on details. But the problems in education are the same as in GM. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Any solution that ignores that 1st commandment is suspect.

Like any business, education has plenty of room for innovation. And innovation does not come from business school 'experts'. Fundamental to all innovation - management must come from where the work gets done. "No child left behind" is so often cited by my education friends as how to destroy education. I am not familiar with the details. But their animosity to business school expert rationalization - including this so called superiority of private schools - is rather attention grabbing. It amazes me how a mental midget will somehow know what education needs when this same president has no qualms about killing American soldiers to protect his legacy; will destroy science to promote his man to Mars nonsense.

“Stupid is as stupid does". So where does this myth about private schools being better come from? Look at the intelligence of its promoter: George Jr proverbial liar.
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:33 PM   #3
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#1 - Parents
#2 - Parents
#3 - Parents

If the parents don't raise the kid to respect the teachers, school and education in general, there's trouble from the git go.

If the parents don't keep in touch with their kids teachers, how do they know the kid didn't buy a box of gold stars at the corner store.

If the parents don't ride herd on the school board, how do they know if the money is being spent in the right way, in the right places.

Fuck that village raising your child...that's your job.

I pay a lot of school taxes. I've been paying a lot for a long time. I don't use the facilities, but I don't grumble too much because I believe in public education. Maybe a little when you get a tax break because you have spawn, but I don't, even though I spending a whole lot on those spawn.

And I more than grumble, when I see the schools wasting large sums on stupid stuff. Case in point; the high school pays consultants $500,000 to come up with a plan...wait for it.....to make the school look and feel less like an institution. That half million is just for the ideas....millions more to do it.

Maybe if the place looked and felt more like an institution, the little bastards would be better behaved.

I'm ranting, sorry.

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