5/23/2006: Barbaro's leg repair - Page 3

Hoof Hearted · 01-29-2007, 09:00 PM

Great link, MilkFish! Ruffian is my all-time fave TB. Her courage was unequalled and her greatness never fully realized...
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wolf · 01-29-2007, 10:14 PM

Despite the possible profit in stud fees, I was very surprised they didn't euthenize Barbaro on the track. I remember Ruffian, too. It's a shame.

Hoof Hearted · 01-30-2007, 12:07 AM

I think they would have needed 20 years of stud fees to recoup what they would have received from insurance with euthanasia on the track. Far more profitable to have euthanized him, but they felt he had given so much to them, they should try to give back to him and give him a chance to live.

Regardless, his case has given new hope to other leg/hoof injuries and inspirational means of treatment.

SPUCK · 01-30-2007, 04:16 AM

What's sad is the continual press for faster horses. This means the breeding selects for thinner legs and smaller bones. The smaller and stiffer,(read brittle), the bones the faster the horse. And... the more often their legs will snap like a dry saltine. We will see this more and more often. It's what happens when we start selective breeding for one trait. Rather like Irish Setters that were bred for that classy look until they were utterly brainless.

Let me try to show this.
A modern cutting horse that has to be agile (turn a lot and quickly).

Poor Barbaro a thorobred bred for speed only. Notice the thin legs.

bigw00dy · 01-30-2007, 05:43 AM

[cue intense piano playing]
Once again, The Philly Curse has struck!!!
The Eagles.....
The Phillies.....
the Flyers......
and now Barbaro
Godspeed

busterb · 01-30-2007, 07:40 AM

So sad. They didn't give him time to answer all the cards and letters wishing him well.

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Spexxvet · 01-30-2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted

...Regardless, his case has given new hope to other leg/hoof injuries and inspirational means of treatment.

The Penn Vet School has received $$$millions in the name of Barbaro. Hopefully it will also help develop new treatments/cures.

Griff · 01-30-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SPUCK

What's sad is the continual press for faster horses. This means the breeding selects for thinner legs and smaller bones. The smaller and stiffer,(read brittle), the bones the faster the horse. And... the more often their legs will snap like a dry saltine. We will see this more and more often. It's what happens when we start selective breeding for one trait.

Isn't the thoroughbred breeding stock a relatively small and closed pool? They need new blood but I'm sure there are rules against it. The horses are more fragile and nominally faster. Look at how much time man has taken off the mile in the last hundred years and then look at the horse. I wonder if putting some standardbred into the pool wouldn't improve things?

xoxoxoBruce · 01-30-2007, 09:52 AM

Put some Clydesdale in for more fun. The entertainment is not in how fast they run, it's in how closely they're matched.

milkfish · 01-30-2007, 11:54 AM

Oh, sure, you say you're just mixing in a little Clydesdale, but someone gets carried away and this is what we'll get: Name: hippogriff2.png
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xoxoxoBruce · 01-30-2007, 02:53 PM

What's your point, Luddite?

Happy Monkey · 01-30-2007, 03:01 PM

They cleverly got around the obvious wing-size-to-weight issues by adding rocket nostrils.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-30-2007, 06:23 PM

He's sneezing from the Magic Dust.

01-29-2007, 09:00 PM	#31
Hoof Hearted ...you smell something? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Monroe, GA Posts: 420	Great link, MilkFish! Ruffian is my all-time fave TB. Her courage was unequalled and her greatness never fully realized... hh __________________ I have the ability of single-minded determination and focu...Hey, look! A horse!

01-29-2007, 10:14 PM	#32
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Despite the possible profit in stud fees, I was very surprised they didn't euthenize Barbaro on the track. I remember Ruffian, too. It's a shame. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-30-2007, 12:07 AM	#33
Hoof Hearted ...you smell something? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Monroe, GA Posts: 420	I think they would have needed 20 years of stud fees to recoup what they would have received from insurance with euthanasia on the track. Far more profitable to have euthanized him, but they felt he had given so much to them, they should try to give back to him and give him a chance to live. Regardless, his case has given new hope to other leg/hoof injuries and inspirational means of treatment. __________________ I have the ability of single-minded determination and focu...Hey, look! A horse!

01-30-2007, 04:16 AM	#34
SPUCK Professor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,911	What's sad is the continual press for faster horses. This means the breeding selects for thinner legs and smaller bones. The smaller and stiffer,(read brittle), the bones the faster the horse. And... the more often their legs will snap like a dry saltine. We will see this more and more often. It's what happens when we start selective breeding for one trait. Rather like Irish Setters that were bred for that classy look until they were utterly brainless. Let me try to show this. A modern cutting horse that has to be agile (turn a lot and quickly). Poor Barbaro a thorobred bred for speed only. Notice the thin legs. Attached Images

01-30-2007, 05:43 AM	#35
bigw00dy I'm here once in a while Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 458	[cue intense piano playing] Once again, The Philly Curse has struck!!! The Eagles..... The Phillies..... the Flyers...... and now Barbaro Godspeed __________________ flickr®

01-30-2007, 07:40 AM	#36
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	So sad. They didn't give him time to answer all the cards and letters wishing him well. 26 __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

01-30-2007, 09:52 AM	#39
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Put some Clydesdale in for more fun. The entertainment is not in how fast they run, it's in how closely they're matched. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-30-2007, 11:54 AM	#40
milkfish A serene breakdown Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern NJ, USA Posts: 266	Oh, sure, you say you're just mixing in a little Clydesdale, but someone gets carried away and this is what we'll get: __________________ A genius is one who can do anything except make a living. - Joey Lauren Adams

01-30-2007, 02:53 PM	#41
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	What's your point, Luddite? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-30-2007, 03:01 PM	#42
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	They cleverly got around the obvious wing-size-to-weight issues by adding rocket nostrils. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

01-30-2007, 06:23 PM	#43
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	He's sneezing from the Magic Dust. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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