Do You Own a Gun?

Spexxvet · 04-26-2007, 06:02 PM

Radar, you can think that you are born with all the rights you want - if your neighbor doesn't buy into the same societal convention, he will kill you and take your stuff and your women. So good luck with that.

busterb · 04-26-2007, 06:15 PM

Nuf said.

Radar · 04-26-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Radar, you can think that you are born with all the rights you want - if your neighbor doesn't buy into the same societal convention, he will kill you and take your stuff and your women. So good luck with that.

If he tries he will meet the same fate he planned for me but in my case, I'll be using defensive force and exercising my rights, while he'll be using offensive force while trying to violate them. My position is clear, concise, and has no flaws or ambiguity. This is because, unlike yours, it's based entirely on reality and truth.

Spexxvet · 04-26-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

If he tries he will meet the same fate he planned for me but in my case, I'll be using defensive force and exercising my rights, while he'll be using offensive force while trying to violate them. My position is clear, concise, and has no flaws or ambiguity. This is because, unlike yours, it's based entirely on reality and truth.

Don't you understand that if your neighbor would do this, he doesn't share the rights that supposedly were floating around waiting for you to be born? Rights are a societal convention. That's reality and truth, not mysticism and mumbo-jumbo, like your theory.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-26-2007, 10:25 PM

Society doesn't give rights, it restricts them.

If you were the only person in North America you have the right to do anything you want... anything. You could shit in the punch bowl if you wanted.

BUT, if one (or more) people move in, you now have a society which limits your rights to do anything you want because you have other people to consider. And they you, which limits their right to do anything they want.

Society restricts rights.

Spexxvet · 04-27-2007, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Society doesn't give rights, it restricts them.

If you were the only person in North America you have the right to do anything you want... anything. You could shit in the punch bowl if you wanted.
...

Sounds more like no responsibility and a free schedule, not rights.

Rights are agreed-upon behaviors.

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04-26-2007, 06:02 PM	#1
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Radar, you can think that you are born with all the rights you want - if your neighbor doesn't buy into the same societal convention, he will kill you and take your stuff and your women. So good luck with that. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

04-26-2007, 06:15 PM	#2
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Nuf said. Attached Images __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

04-26-2007, 10:25 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Society doesn't give rights, it restricts them. If you were the only person in North America you have the right to do anything you want... anything. You could shit in the punch bowl if you wanted. BUT, if one (or more) people move in, you now have a society which limits your rights to do anything you want because you have other people to consider. And they you, which limits their right to do anything they want. Society restricts rights. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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