Is America Dying?

[freshnesschronic]

Here, here, my good sir.

[piercehawkeye45]

90% of that crime is in impoverished areas where, sadly, no one seems to care about anyways.

If you really look you will find every country is just like what you said.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

90% of that crime is in impoverished areas where, sadly, no one seems to care about anyways.

If you really look you will find every country is just like what you said.

Every first world nation has its crime but not on the level seen in the united states. I have looked, we have had this discussion before. Try comparing crime rates in any US city to hong kong, tokyo, singapore and see what I mean.
Also why is america so divided ideologically? Why does america allow itself to be invaded? Why in america can a child molester get off because the judge doesn't like the prison system?

Me starting this thread was a legitimate question. Is america dying?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

Every first world nation has its crime but not on the level seen in the united states. I have looked, we have had this discussion before. Try comparing crime rates in any US city to hong kong, tokyo, singapore and see what I mean.
Also why is america so divided ideologically? Why does america allow itself to be invaded? Why in america can a child molester get off because the judge doesn't like the prison system?

Me starting this thread was a legitimate question. Is america dying?

It has its crime but it is not falling apart because of it. You also can't learn shit from statistics and I have explained the situation for you. The average person in the United States is no more violent than anywhere else in the first world. It is just a small population that is violent.

Why does america allow itself to be invaded?

This is one of the most ignorant things I've heard. It is extremely hard and expensive to stop so stop judging others on what you have no understanding of.

Also why is america so divided ideologically?

Because we have opinions.

Why in america can a child molester get off because the judge doesn't like the prison system?

This is a one in a million thing that will inevidately happen in a coutnry as big and free as ours. If it was happening all the time then, yes it would be a problem, but it isn't.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

It has its crime but it is not falling apart because of it. You also can't learn shit from statistics and I have explained the situation for you. The average person in the United States is no more violent than anywhere else in the first world. It is just a small population that is violent.

The average american may not be more violent than anybody else but level of violence is higher than other first world nations. There is something wrong there. I know you americans are patriotic but stop denying reality.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

This is one of the most ignorant things I've heard. It is extremely hard and expensive to stop so stop judging others on what you have no understanding of.

There is nothing ignorant about that at all. You let millions of uneducated and unskilled workers flood your border despite the law. That is an invasion. You do nothing serious to stop it but argue about it instead. You even allow the invaders to protest in your streets waving their flag!
Your government is ineffective in this area. Perhaps due to corruption.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Because we have opinions.

Your opinions have deadlocked you into uselessness.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

This is a one in a million thing that will inevidately happen in a coutnry as big and free as ours. If it was happening all the time then, yes it would be a problem, but it isn't.

The fact nothing was done about it and it was allowed to happen again says something about the american justice system.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

The average american may not be more violent than anybody else but level of violence is higher than other first world nations. There is something wrong there. I know you americans are patriotic but stop denying reality.

I have told you why there is more violence in America than in the first-world countries. Of course there is something wrong but you can't blame a whole country for the mistake of a few people.

There is nothing ignorant about that at all. You let millions of uneducated and unskilled workers flood your border despite the law. That is an invasion.

If you can come up with a solution I would love to hear it.

You do nothing serious to stop it but argue about it instead. You even allow the invaders to protest in your streets waving their flag!

How is that bad?

Your government is ineffective in this area. Perhaps due to corruption.

Every government is corrupt.

Your opinions have deadlocked you into uselessness.

No, it is other reasons why we are not getting to a solution.

The fact nothing was done about it and it was allowed to happen again says something about the american justice system.

Once again you are taking an isolated incident and blaming it on the entire country.

It isn't about superiority. I make criticism about america because I lived there. I have seen it for myself. Americans assume any criticism is bashing and nothing more.

Whether you know it or not your tone comes off like you are looking down upon the United States. That is superiority. Just because you lived here for two years or however long doesn't make you an expert on America.

I do not assume all criticism is bashing. I am one of the most heavy United States criticizers here but it is to change the way we live not look down upon it. The way you worded it makes it sound like bashing.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

There is nothing ignorant about that at all. You let millions of uneducated and unskilled workers flood your border despite the law. That is an invasion. You do nothing serious to stop it but argue about it instead. You even allow the invaders to protest in your streets waving their flag!.

Bold text mine.

It's called FREEDOM, duck. Say it with me: Freeeeeedommmmm.
Immigration (or invasion as you call it) or not, we tend to let people wave whatever freaking flag they want. Would you rather our government suppress that? I wouldn't; that isn't FREEDOM.

[freshnesschronic]

She won't look. Don't even bother reasoning.

[Aliantha]

I think he liiiiikes her...he wants to kiiiiiiss her....

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by Griff

I'm thinking Pierce has a different agenda...

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I think he liiiiikes her...he wants to kiiiiiiss her....

I think you guys are dead-on. I think Pierce has already saved duck_duck's pic as his wallpaper. What's the legal age in Hong Kong anyway? I bet she could talk Wolfy into a two-fer. Pierce might be one clever dude after all.

[piercehawkeye45]

Eh, I overreacted, I was in a bad mood last night. Sorry.

It was her calling Iraq a "third-world dump" that set me off. I just hate it when someone acts like they are better than anyone else because of where they were born.

I think he liiiiikes her...he wants to kiiiiiiss her....

Please, I wouldn't take her from Fresh.

[Aliantha]

lol...that's good. we can't have you youngsters fighting amongst yourselves.

[piercehawkeye45]

Now why would we do that...

BIG TEN REPRESENT!

[Aliantha]

I guess you'd do that cause the old farts are always fighting amongst themselves.

What does the second line mean? I don't get that.

[piercehawkeye45]

If there is a threesome involved I'm sorry Fresh, you are getting kicked out of the boat.