July 16, 2007: Bellyflop 2007

Flint · 07-17-2007, 10:23 PM

For the record, it wasn't "one of the worst human rights crimes in history" it was about par for the course, that is to say: atrocious, mind-numbing, and unforgivable. Yet, more or less typical of human behavior. Africans enslaved Africans, Native Americans enslaved Native Americans, etc. etc.

I'd look to Christopher Columbus, and the native Arawak people of Haiti, as one quick example of a more shocking human rights crime.

freshnesschronic · 07-17-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

For the record, it wasn't "one of the worst human rights crimes in history" it was about par for the course, that is to say: atrocious, mind-numbing, and unforgivable. Yet, more or less typical of human behavior. Africans enslaved Africans, Native Americans enslaved Native Americans, etc. etc.

Very true, Flint, very true. Slavery has and was everywhere.

But why should we embrace such savage and uncivilized ideals and philosophies? By still holding onto this confederate flag we hold onto the savage and uncivilized.

We are "post" modern man, and I'd rather not be associated with such a backwards way of life such as slavery. Especially when it brews up racism, hate, intolerance and violence which are such unsophisticated problems in society.

Gravdigr · 07-19-2007, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Very true, Flint, very true. Slavery has and was everywhere.

But why should we embrace such savage and uncivilized ideals and philosophies? By still holding onto this confederate flag we hold onto the savage and uncivilized.

We are "post" modern man, and I'd rather not be associated with such a backwards way of life such as slavery. Especially when it brews up racism, hate, intolerance and violence which are such unsophisticated problems in society.

Biker rallies, civil war re-enactments, parades, the only time I've EVER witnessed violence regarding 'the confederate flag' is when someone was trying to keep someone else from flying/displaying it. Never once have I heard/witnessed/heard about someone saying "Yee haw, we got us a confedert flag, let's us have a lynchin'." (Don't let my sarcasm drip on you)

JuancoRocks · 07-19-2007, 11:51 PM

Just an observation .....

The attitude from anyone.... "I don't like it, therefore it should be banned".... is just another example of why our overly political correct country is going to hell in a hurry. Just who the hell are you to determine what should be banned? Your imaginary personal feelings are more important than the history of our country?

The Confederate Flag ~
Over time the flag has acquired a wide range of meanings, some apparently contradicting others. Since the C.S.A. were fighting for independence during the American Civil War, much as the United States did during the U.S. War of Independence, the Confederate flag has always had connotations of rebellion, patriotism, self-determination, dissent, freedom, and liberty.

The flag traditionally represented the South's resistance to Northern political dominance.

It only became racially charged during the Civil Rights Movement, when fighting against desegregation suddenly became the focal point of that resistance.

These same people want to ban books they don't like, movies, music et cetera...The world should only be as they see it in their narrow minded, perfectly controlled world.

07-17-2007, 10:23 PM	#1
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	For the record, it wasn't "one of the worst human rights crimes in history" it was about par for the course, that is to say: atrocious, mind-numbing, and unforgivable. Yet, more or less typical of human behavior. Africans enslaved Africans, Native Americans enslaved Native Americans, etc. etc. I'd look to Christopher Columbus, and the native Arawak people of Haiti, as one quick example of a more shocking human rights crime. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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07-19-2007, 11:51 PM	#4
JuancoRocks Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Paradise Valley, Arizona Posts: 437	Just an observation ..... The attitude from anyone.... "I don't like it, therefore it should be banned".... is just another example of why our overly political correct country is going to hell in a hurry. Just who the hell are *you* to determine what should be banned? Your imaginary personal feelings are more important than the history of our country? The Confederate Flag ~ Over time the flag has acquired a wide range of meanings, some apparently contradicting others. Since the C.S.A. were fighting for independence during the American Civil War, much as the United States did during the U.S. War of Independence, the Confederate flag has always had connotations of rebellion, patriotism, self-determination, dissent, freedom, and liberty. The flag traditionally represented the South's resistance to Northern political dominance. It only became racially charged during the Civil Rights Movement, when fighting against desegregation suddenly became the focal point of that resistance. These same people want to ban books they don't like, movies, music et cetera...The world should only be as they see it in their narrow minded, perfectly controlled world.

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