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Old 11-29-2007, 11:40 PM   #1
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The latest word is she's sentenced to two weeks' imprisonment, exiled back to England, and no forty lashes.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:07 AM   #2
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The latest word is she's sentenced to two weeks' imprisonment, exiled back to England, and no forty lashes.
Where are all the protes-- oh, it's already started.



I tend to think the anger in all of this isn't really about the stupid toy bear's name, but more that there is a UK teacher in Sudan. This was just the chance the children's parents needed to have her removed.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:30 AM   #3
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There's more than that.

It was a WOMAN! And she was TEACHING! WORKING! and as far as I can judge, she was INDEPENDENT!
Outrageous, really.

No wonder some mobs are calling for her execution.

She's clearly a witch too. They should burn her.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:47 AM   #4
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it's freaking ridiculous. i mean it seriously burns me up and makes me angry. it is one of the very few subjects that really makes me see red and want to see physical punishment and harm to come to someone. i mean, who the hell do they think they are? things were good and fine right up until the point that we started to give women rights. RIGHTS??? what the hell? they are rights for men - they have forgotten they are privileges for women. they belong at home. either in the kitchen making us dinner. or the bedroom making us babies. or taking care of the house and kids while we are in our rightful workplace...

ok, i can't do it anymore, but i thought that it just wouldn't be the cellar if someone didn't argue the contrarian point there. sorry i couldn't do better.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:11 AM   #5
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they belong at home. either in the kitchen making us dinner. or the bedroom making us babies. or taking care of the house and kids while we are in our rightful workplace
I get really confused every time I see an interview of a woman living in one of those cultures and she answers that not only do women living there love it, but they prefer it, and that they can't understand how women in other parts of the world can stand to not be under such constraints. They talk about how it makes them feel safe, protected, closer to their families and god...

Our western culture is so far removed from this I don't think there is any way we could begin to understand.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:17 AM   #6
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Interesting points Kits, I can imagine a few pluses - there would be a whole lot of things you never have to worry about: finances, the mortgage, politics, civic duty.
Mind you there would be the down side: domestic violence, mind-numbing boredom, etc.

What I want to know is, what are they going to do with the bear?
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:34 AM   #7
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I can imagine a few pluses - there would be a whole lot of things you never have to worry about: finances, the mortgage, politics, civic duty.
Mind you there would be the down side: domestic violence, mind-numbing boredom, etc.
You can fast forward to 3m30s in this, but I found it to provide some interesting insights.

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Old 12-02-2007, 09:37 PM   #8
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I tend to think the anger in all of this isn't really about the stupid toy bear's name, but more that there is a UK teacher in Sudan. This was just the chance the children's parents needed to have her removed.
What I fail to understand is not one child appears to have objected to the idea in the of naming of the toy. So clearly they were not aware of the circumstances which, if it is such a crime, would have been engendered into the children by their parents.

Alternatively, the mass protests by the parents was orchestrated. By who, I wonder? Those who take billions of dollars, charitably given, for their own use? I think there is far more to this story that hasn't yet seen the light of day.
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