Huckabee and Obama Triumph in Iowa

[Undertoad]

Obama's statement is much more reassuring than Edwards' gaffe "The war on terror is just a bumper sticker slogan". I'd vote Giuliani over Edwards, and damn right I'd feel safer for it.

What I don't like about most Ds is the fact that they will benefit off the loss of the Iraq war. It doesn't seem like they are actually hoping for it... except when they say things like "the Iraq war is lost" and "the Iraq war is unwinnable" and "the surge will certainly fail" and etc.

[melidasaur]

Normally, I don't care about politics that much. Personally, I feel let down by any elected official, whether I voted for them or not. However, recent events (ie the ABC/facebook debate) have changed my mind for one reason - I HATE MITT ROMNEY!

He needs to keep his mouth shut. Everytime he opens his mouth, he makes himself look like an arrogant ass. He is not a likable person - not to say that you have to be likable to win office, but it certainly helps. Al Gore is more likable than Mitt Romney. I enjoy watching Mike Huckabee go after Romney because everytime Romney responds he just makes himself look like an utter jerk.

Don't even get me started on Mitt Romney being mormon!!!!

I am surprised (and glad) to see Hilary loosing steam. Makes me realize that my fellow citizens may not be as stupid as I think they are.

Go everyone but Mitt!

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

What I don't like about most Ds is the fact that they will benefit off the loss of the Iraq war.

Not a surprise. If we were to lose, what person would say, "We just lost a war encouraged by a party that has been in political control for years under the policies they wrote, agreed upon, and implemented. You know what we need in the next election? More of the same!"

Originally Posted by Undertoad

It doesn't seem like they are actually hoping for it... except when they say things like "the Iraq war is lost" and "the Iraq war is unwinnable" and "the surge will certainly fail" and etc.

Why is it that so many people equate those who are critical of the war with people that "hope for loss"? What an utter disaster the US would be in for if we waged war and everyone agreed in lockstep that the policies and strategies being implemented could result in nothing less than a spectacular success and should not be questioned, picked apart, or criticized. Chopping it up into sound bites doesn't assist matters, either. Reid said "I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week. ... I believe the war at this stage can only be won diplomatically, politically and economically" because he not only recognizes that we can't just bomb a nation into a successful democracy, but that we must be cautious, especially given what history has taught us:

But Reid drew a parallel with former US president Lyndon Johnson who decided to deploy more troops in Vietnam some 40 years ago when 24,000 US troops had already been killed.

"Johnson did not want a war loss on his watch, so he surged in Vietnam. After the surge was over, we added 34,000 to the 24,000 who died in Vietnam," Reid said.

...and a lot of people are going to be angry, seeing that statements like this are almost entirely political in nature. Every terrorist attack, every step into and through this war, and every step out of this war is going to be political. But saying, "See what these idiots started? We're in deep shit because of their actions!" does not equal, "With the death of every US soldier, I can feel the might of my campaign growing! I'm really hoping for a big car bomb, tomorrow!"

So, anyways, how many political ads have you seen aired by the Ds that state another war is going to start if the GOP is elected, again? Now, how many ads have you seen for Rs that seem to indicate your children are going to be eaten by wolves/blown up by terrorists if you vote for the opposition?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Reid said "I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week. ... I believe the war at this stage can only be won diplomatically, politically and economically" because he not only recognizes that we can't just bomb a nation into a successful democracy,

Yea, then he had to turn around and eat his words. He even stated so...

Now, how many ads have you seen for Rs that seem to indicate your children are going to be eaten by wolves/blown up by terrorists if you vote for the opposition?

Very few, and those that I have seen were by 527. No worse than the crap coming from Soro's shell orgainzations.