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Old 06-13-2008, 05:51 PM   #1
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What the hell is wrong with you? No personal attacks?
Again TheMercenary posts mockery to avoid reality. No strategic objective means no victory. Deja vue Nam. The US won most every battle - tactical victories. But lost the war. Why? As the Pentagon Papers and a long list of other sources make so obvious - no strategic victory means an unwinnable war. "A Bright and Shining Lie" should one choose to learn from history.

Military operation must move the conflict to a negotiating table. When the US went to that Paris negotiating table, Le Duc Tho even provided Kissinger with N Vietnam's secret assessments of the future. US had no strategic objective. The Vietnamese objective was clear, obvious, and (we now know) took less time than even the North estimated. Vietnamese objective was reunification of their nation. America's were body counts, 'search and destroy', etc - nothing that creates a strategic victory.

Too complex for TheMercenary is Petraeus's statements. He can achieve tactical victory. America cannot achieve a strategic victory. Worse, Iraq's government wants to reassess their entire American agreement. Not negotiations with various insurgents - the many parties in that civil war. Instead, Maliki's government wants to limit the Americans. America's objectives are not consistent with an Iraqi solution. No viable strategic objective? So where is this light at the end of a tunnel? From the NY Times of 13 Jun 2008:
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... talks with the United States on a new long-term security pact were deadlocked because of U.S. demands that infringed Iraq's sovereignty.

"... we found that the U.S. demands hugely infringe on the sovereignty of Iraq, and this we can never accept," Maliki said ...

The United States and Iraq are negotiating a new agreement to provide a legal basis for U.S. troops to stay in Iraq after Dec. 31, when their United Nations mandate expires, as well as a separate long-term agreement on political, economic and security ties between the two countries.
Not discussed is a fundamental definition of victory in "Mission Accomplished". Not discussed in those negotiations and completely ignored by TheMercenary. Well published facts that TheMercenary has difficulty grasping. TheMercenary confuses tactical victory with military victory. That difference why armies have officers who better understand the difference.

As one Captain said (quoted in network news broadcasts), "I can win every battle but cannot win this war". He is officer material; understands why an army can win every battle and still lose the war. No strategic objectives, means no strategic victory, means "no light at the end of the tunnel". Deja vue Nam - or why TheMercenary cannot challenge let alone understand the concept. But then TheMercenary always attacks the messenger when reality contradicts his political agenda. No wonder he loves the mental midget president. Birds of a feather ...
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Old 06-13-2008, 05:56 PM   #2
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TheMercenary ...bla, bla, bla....TheMercenary...bla, bla, bla....TheMercenary...bla, bla, bla, bla ...TheMercenary...TheMercenary ....TheMercenary ....TheMercenary......bla, bla
I knew you couldn't resist. Way to go. Did you actually say something of importance?
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:10 PM   #3
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blah blah blah
And again the concept of military victory is too complex for one who worships George Jr. So TheMercenary. What color is George Jr's feather of the day? Do you wait for Rush Limbaugh to tell you or do they fax you the schedule?

Strategic objective? Too complex for extremists is even a simplest question: When do we go after bin Laden? No wonder 'strategic objective' is so difficult for TheMercenary - who even lied about his service record.
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:12 PM   #4
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bla...TheMercenary...bla, bla, bla...TheMercenary - who even lied about his service record.
Like I said there Willis, put up or shut up. So far you have produced no response. Should I consider that a weak attempt at a personal attack?
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:35 PM   #5
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Should I consider that a weak attempt at a personal attack?
tw now duplicates how TheMercenary routinely posted.

It was only one paragraph. TheMercenary can only understand sound bytes. Typical of anyone so dumb as to still openly support George Jr, extremism, and fear a simplest question: When do we go after bin Laden? Why does TheMercenary fear to answer that question? Oh. Rush Limbaugh has not yet told him how to respond.

Yes, so dumb as to not apologize for supporting the scumbag president. So anti-social as to even approve of torture and Guantanamo. Well documented facts about someone who even lied about his service record. Funny how lies and extremism go hand in hand. Funny how such people cannot read beyond one paragraph. It was one paragraph. So TheMercenary almost understood it. Could George Jr also understand it. Birds of a feather …
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:40 PM   #6
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Again TheMercenary still cannot grasp something taught in Military Science 101 - strategic objective and the purpose of war. So his ignorance is not exposed in replies, TheMercenary attacks on the messenger. He has no grasp of basic military concepts ... just like George Jr. TheMercenary: can you even name the countries adjacent to Israel? George Jr couldn't.
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TheMercenary - who even lied about his service record.…
Come on tw. You said it, answer it. Put up or shut up.
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Old 06-13-2008, 07:10 PM   #8
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Come on tw. You said it, answer it. Put up or shut up.
Posted as TheMercenary does. Supporting facts need not be posted. Accusations are sufficient. Posted by me is far more proof than TheMercenary posts. Meanwhile, TheMercenary lied about his service record. But then lying is situation normal for those who worship George Jr - who have no idea what is necessary to win a war.

How curious. You again avoid discussing what is necessary to win a war so that others will not see how ignorant you really are. Not just a personal attack. Also a fact.
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