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View Poll Results: Who is to blame for recent gas price increases?
Market speculators 14 40.00%
Oil companies 13 37.14%
Oil producing countries 8 22.86%
China 10 28.57%
US Automakers 9 25.71%
Lack of refining capacity 10 28.57%
US government/lawmakers 11 31.43%
The Federal Reserve 7 20.00%
Dark Markets 4 11.43%
TheMercenary 7 20.00%
US Consumers 12 34.29%
Other 13 37.14%
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Old 06-26-2008, 05:39 PM   #1
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GM management is so misguided as to even believe and preach hydrogen as a fuel.
You failed to pay attention to what I posted earlier. Honda believes in and preaches hydrogen as a fuel -- their HYDROGEN car starts selling in California this month!!!

http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/

Jamie Lee Curtis and Christopher Guest get the second one in California
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Old 06-26-2008, 05:56 PM   #2
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You failed to pay attention to what I posted earlier. Honda believes in and preaches hydrogen as a fuel -- their HYDROGEN car starts selling in California this month!!!
Yes, CA had a law that all but required all cars to run on hydrogen. That law was eventually repealed. But Honda finished the design anyway. Honda and Mercedes have hydrogen powered cars just like Honda also has walking and running Robots. Honda has the product that some governments threatened to the require. And the work could eventually lead to some other technologies - where the fuel cell is a replacement for the NiMH battery. Honda finished a design that was original only justified by CA laws. The Honda hydrogen car will be sold much like a trophy (as was the Insight or S2000). But hydrogen as a fuel obviously makes no sense.

I did not ignore your post. It just was not relevant once basic thermodydnamics are known. Selling this experimental technology is an opportunity to refine that technology. Even though hydrogen as a fuel makes no sense, the technology could lead to something useful by testing this technology on some consumers. Hydrogen as a fuel never made sense, as should have long been obvious.

Hydrogen as a fuel makes as much sense as our mandatory ethanol nonsense.
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