The coming liberal thugocracy

[tw.]

yes, no good can possibly come of it.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

"Joe the Plumber": whatever you think of him, he has now been searched for by public officials at four Ohio databases, including welfare, child support, and unemployment compensation.

Their defense: such searches are routine when somebody is thrust into a public spotlight.

Lesson learned: it's dangerous to speak politically in public.

If you're wanted for breaking the law, it's dangerous to do a lot of things that might let the authorities know where to find you.

[Shawnee123]

It's like this:

You take off your shirt and wave your titties all over the place. Then you say "STOP LOOKING AT MY TITTIES!"

If you believe that he wasn't planted, you're more oblivious than I could have believed. Even the Rs aren't denying that.

Shove your "hard working American family man downtrodden business owner who doesn't really own a business" in people's face, then people get to gawk at the hard working titties.

[TheMercenary]

Currently there is absolutely no evidence to prove or support the notion that Joe the Plumber was a plant. If there is I would like someone to show it.

[Undertoad]

Except that he hadn't broken the law Clod, so S123's analogy is kind of like getting your titties put up on the Internet by your doctor when you announced to the public that you have a broken toe. If you don't want your titties on the Internet, don't complain about a broken toe.

Now the official who looked into the database -- a maxed-out Obama donor, according to public record that anybody can look up -- that was breaking the law.

I say let her go if she puts up her titties on the net.

[TheMercenary]

I want to see them first. Then you can fire her.

[Shawnee123]

I'll agree that the employee was way out of line. When I read that I thought "Uh, privacy laws, folks."

The initial act of putting him out there, unless you're completely naive about this campaign process, was so freaking obvious. Come on.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I'll agree that the employee was way out of line. When I read that I thought "Uh, privacy laws, folks."

The initial act of putting him out there, unless you're completely naive about this campaign process, was so freaking obvious. Come on.

You want to believe it is true. But really no one has any evidence that it is the case. How about this? The guy is just some joe who asks an honest question that totally catches Obamy and his handlers off guard. Obamy steps on it big time wth his response and the repubs exploit it. Much more logical and believable.

[classicman]

No Merc, the simplicity & logic of your reasoning makes me incredulous. Its far more believable that there is a grand conspiracy.

[Shawnee123]

What I love is how t-dub has you two pegged! Silly young lovers.

I could write your posts before you do. I'm more inclined to actually listen to Merc, because he does tend to say more than "look at how you suck...your posts suck, hey everyone can I get some validation that t-dub sucks because I am like a little dog in the tall grass always jumping up to see what everyone else is doing."

A short liar AND a boring jellyfish. Seriously, you should reconsider your existence.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

What I love is how t-dub has you two pegged!

Now that right there is some funny shite.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I could write your posts before you do. I'm more inclined to actually listen to Merc, because he does tend to say more than "look at how you suck...your posts suck, hey everyone can I get some validation that t-dub sucks because I am like a little dog in the tall grass always jumping up to see what everyone else is doing."

It really bothers you that people agree on something you and others may disagree on. It's not that big of a deal. This is just a conversation. I mean you don't have to join in it if you don't want to, I would rather you did join the conversation. But if you don't understand the subject you don't need to join it if you choose not to, I don't think anyone is going to think less of you. I don't fully understand it all either, but I am trying. And the more I educate myself the more I realize if Obamy gets elected this country may get something they didn't bargin for in the long run. Hey I am good for it. Be careful what you wish for. I think post election we are going to go through some serious economic hardships, significant lay offs, corprate flight, followed by more lay offs, and more people who can't pay the bills or feed their families. Hey that's just me MHO. Good luck.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

It really bothers you that people agree on something you and others may disagree on. It's not that big of a deal. This is just a conversation. I mean you don't have to join in it if you don't want to, I would rather you did join the conversation. But if you don't understand the subject you don't need to join it if you choose not to, I don't think anyone is going to think less of you. I don't fully understand it all either, but I am trying. And the more I educate myself the more I realize if Obamy gets elected this country may get something they didn't bargin for in the long run. Hey I am good for it. Be careful what you wish for. I think post election we are going to go through some serious economic hardships, significant lay offs, corprate flight, followed by more lay offs, and more people who can't pay the bills or feed their families. Hey that's just me MHO. Good luck.

Thanks Merc, for the thoughtful response. Yes, I am having fun and being evil at you and (mostly) c-man's expense, but my prob with him came about a long time ago.

I don't agree with you, but when have I EVER been able to bring about points that I might have without you and (mostly) Robin chiming in to tell me I'm stupid. And by ME I mean anyone who has hope that Obama is the real deal.

I truly hope that whomever is elected gives our country some hope. I did not vote for the last 8 years of stupidity, and I didn't even vote for "my" congressman. I have hope in Obama. I could be way wrong. Don't you think that I wonder sometimes how I will feel if I am completely wrong and we get f*cked even more? As much as I feel that McCain, and by extension Palin, are wrong for our country, I haven't said the shitty things I've heard from you and Tonto's mouths.

So I'm glad we can agree to disagree Merc. I think both our hearts might be in the right place.

[Shawnee123]

Time for the chime in:

C: Yes, you're right about the shite!

Wait for it...

Kind of like Steve and Edie being Sinatra's puppies.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Except that he hadn't broken the law Clod, so S123's analogy is kind of like getting your titties put up on the Internet by your doctor when you announced to the public that you have a broken toe. If you don't want your titties on the Internet, don't complain about a broken toe.

Now the official who looked into the database -- a maxed-out Obama donor, according to public record that anybody can look up -- that was breaking the law.

Right, he hadn't broken the law (i.e., been behind on child support payments or received welfare when he had demonstrable income) which means he wasn't in the databases to find in the first place. From your article:

"Not surprisingly, when a person behind in child support payments or receiving public assistance is receiving significant media attention which suggests that the person appears to have available financial resources, the Department risks justifiable criticism if it fails to take note and respond," Jones-Kelley wrote.

The results of the searches were not publicly released and remain confidential, she wrote.

Furthermore, it's not illegal to search for someone in the database, that's what they're there for. When you are pulled over for speeding, they check you in the outstanding warrants database too. It would have been illegal to publicly release someone's welfare or unemployment status, but they didn't do that--and in the case of child support, there's nothing private about it in the first place. The dollar amounts are part of public court proceedings, and if you don't pay you have committed a crime which is also public information.