The Obamanation

[BigV]

are you being deliberately dumb about this? If so, you're doing a remarkable job of it.

I'm tired of giving your crap the time of day when you act this way. When you just call names and holler making outrageous and unhelpful statements... I'm done trying to have a serious dialog when only one of us is serious. Get back to me when you grow up.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by BigV

are you being deliberately dumb about this? If so, you're doing a remarkable job of it.

I'm tired of giving your crap the time of day when you act this way. When you just call names and holler making outrageous and unhelpful statements... I'm done trying to have a serious dialog when only one of us is serious. Get back to me when you grow up.

Ask HM those questions, I was only answering his comments.

And you obviously have a problem with that.

Why should I have a serious dialog with a person, you, who thinks they know everything already and need not look at what other people post to support their positions? You mind is much more closed than you let yourself on to be...

[BigV]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Ask HM those questions, I was only answering his comments.

And you obviously have a problem with that.

Why should I have a serious dialog with a person, you, who thinks they know everything already and need not look at what other people post to support their positions? You mind is much more closed than you let yourself on to be...

I conclude from this reply that you aren't being deliberately dumb on this subject, therefore, there must be some other explanation, like you really do not understand the difference between wealth and income. That's fine, fine, really, you have lots and lots of company.

As for what I obviously have a problem with... I have a problem attempting to have a serious conversation about a serious subject with someone, you, who regularly uses language that I left behind on the playground. president zero, republickins, demoncrats, etc ad nauseam. It's childish and disrespectful. Disrespectful to me because you are acting like this is the kind of language *I* use to think critically. I don't. And that is the part I have a problem with. I can't have a conversation with someone who persists in using that kind of language.

You're right, my mind is closed in this regard. I close my mind to the words of a child that is having a tantrum and says things that are clearly untrue, clearly emotionally saturated. If I didn't I'd be at risk of being drawn into an argument on those terms. What could be the best possible outcome of such an indulgence on my part? That you would actually persuade me that the Democrats are really demons? Or that Republicans lick pubes (I hear a long U sound when you use that way). Really? I mean, let's say we get into it and you WIN! What has been accomplished? Not a fucking thing. That's why I won't engage you until you start talking like a grown up. Or I lose my cool and start spouting playground insults.

As for why you should have a serious dialog with me, my answer is that by means of a serious dialog, each of us has a chance to learn something we didn't know before. Your idea that I think I already know everything would be very early on that list of things you could learn, if we only had a serious conversation. I wonder if you are referring to a recent set of posts and links from politifact discussing taxation. In that case, I did already know the things I posted about before I read the information at that link. What I read confirmed what I'd already said.

It is a measure of my open mindedness that I have let you throw so much trash in it. I'm closing my mind to more of your garbage.

[infinite monkey]

Just how long do you expect to live?

KIDDING. I KID. I got no dog in this race, and even if I did he'd probably maul somebody.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Just how long do you expect to live?

KIDDING. I KID. I got no dog in this race, and even if I did he'd probably maul somebody.

This long:

{-----------------------------------------------------------------> x 1 million pi + the speed of light to the 2 millionth power-------}

[classicman]

in summary,

[SamIam]

Motto of the Cellar Politics Forum:

"I'm right and the rest of you are incredibly stupid."

That's what makes the "discussions" around here so compelling.

Eh? What?

[Undertoad]

[BigV]

Interesting. I've seen that before. Let me ask you UT, do you think I've treated TheMercenary terribly?

[infinite monkey]

I stopped watching at number 2.

'They' ARE idiots.

(disclaimer: 'they' in no way refers to any individual or entity that you know of, and these views do not necessarily reflect the views of the Cellar. Content may not be duplicated without the express written consent of 'them')

[BigV]

well, then you tuned out before she said the third conclusion is that "they" are evil, then said this strong attachment to our sense of being "right" causes us to treat others terribly.

this is what I was asking about.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by BigV

well, then you tuned out before she said the third conclusion is that "they" are evil, then said this strong attachment to our sense of being "right" causes us to treat others terribly.

this is what I was asking about.

I didn't watch yet.

If someone who endorses policies that are in direct conflict with my well-being, they are evil. If those people achieve their goals, it will be to my detriment.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I didn't watch yet.

If someone who endorses policies that are in direct conflict with my well-being, they are evil. If those people achieve their goals, it will be to my detriment.

Are they still evil if said policies are for the betterment of more than just you?

[Stormieweather]

Isn't that what all conflict IS though?

You think it's harmful (probably to you) and I think it's beneficial in some way (probably for me).

Or vice versa.

[infinite monkey]

Afterward do we get to hold hands and sing Kumbaya?

'Cause I really need me some Kumbaya.