Obama admin retains Bush position on rendition secrets

***standing back to avoid the lightening strike***

taking back the lightening strike after I saw past...."I agree with you"

The Bush DoJ has been the most political and unethical in our lifetime. The DoJ is the one department that is supposed to be above politicization.

I dont expect any future president to sink to that level.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

The Bush DoJ has been the most political and unethical in our lifetime. The DoJ is the one department that is supposed to be above politicization.

Eh, I don't believe that. There have been numerous shady governments in the US before Bush came along.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Eh, I don't believe that. There have been numerous shady governments in the US before Bush came along.

See http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=535215&postcount=165

IMO, the worst politicization of the DoJ in our lifetime.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

See http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=535215&postcount=165

IMO, the worst politicization of the DoJ in our lifetime.

See


http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=535219&postcount=166

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

See


http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=535219&postcount=166

Repeat.....I have to laugh at the way you guys keep finding a way to excuse the actions of the Bush administration.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Repeat.....I have to laugh at the way you guys keep finding a way to excuse the actions of the Bush administration.

How is that? All I did was refer back to the thread you linked to. I have to laugh at the way you have a selective memory when it comes to corruption in Government immediately before and long before Bush.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Redux

The Bush DoJ has been the most political and unethical in our lifetime.

Bullshit. J Edgar Hoover was worse by himself than the entire Bush DoJ. He would have beaten Mukasey to death with his purse for being a wimpy little nancy boy.


Granted, you might not have been around for him...

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

Bullshit. J Edgar Hoover was worse by himself than the entire Bush DoJ. He would have beaten Mukasey to death with his purse for being a wimpy little nancy boy.


Granted, you might not have been around for him...

I am thinking this is just an age thing with Redux. Granted, I don't remember Hoover but it was not far from the times I do remember.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am thinking this is just an age thing with Redux. Granted, I don't remember Hoover but it was not far from the times I do remember.

Hoover was a titan. He knew we hated him, he knew WHY we hated him, and he didn't care...mostly because he had the goods on EVERYONE.

That fucker INVENTED illegal wiretapping. He was a monster, and the world will never know his like again.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

Hoover was a titan. He knew we hated him, he knew WHY we hated him, and he didn't care...mostly because he had the goods on EVERYONE.

That fucker INVENTED illegal wiretapping. He was a monster, and the world will never know his like again.

You do mean the Western World, because the East Germans, Russians, Chinese, Burmese, Iranians, Saudi's and a shit load of others were as bad if not worse than Hoover could ever have dreamed of, and their history is much more recent.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You do mean the Western World, because the East Germans, Russians, Chinese, Burmese, Iranians, Saudi's and a shit load of others were as bad if not worse than Hoover could ever have dreamed of, and their history is much more recent.

Balls. Hoover would have eaten them for breakfast.

Look what he did using (ina manner of speaking) our rules. Then give him Yugoslavia under Tito, and he'd fucking EVERYBODY.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am thinking this is just an age thing with Redux. Granted, I don't remember Hoover but it was not far from the times I do remember.

Hey...I'm old as dirt. I was playing with my cap gun when Hoover was around.

And right after Hoover died, we got John Mitchell as AG...a crook in his own right.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Hey...I'm old as dirt. I was playing with my cap gun when Hoover was around.

And right after Hoover died, we got John Mitchell as AG...a crook in his own right.

Sure.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Sure.

Crooked as the day is long.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Redux

Hey...I'm old as dirt. I was playing with my cap gun when Hoover was around.

And right after Hoover died, we got John Mitchell as AG...a crook in his own right.

Ah, yes, but his wife, Martha Mitchell, kept us amused. I used to love how she'd insist on introducing every unofficial speech he gave, and then she'd totally fuck him over by saying something stunningly stupid right before giving him the podium. My favorite:

"People have been given their freedom to a greater extent than ever before, and I think that's quite wrong."

Or who could forget this little gem:

"We can't have people all running around unregulated, you know."