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Old 03-11-2009, 06:56 PM   #1
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Maybe just maybe we need a little short term help to stem the tide of rising unemployment, reduced monetarycirculation, lowered production and falling housing prices. Maybe tax cuts do help - even if its in only for the short term to keep more people working and to buy some time. Just for the short term till the long term plan kicks in... Maybe?

China February Auto Sales Rise 25% After Tax Cuts
You can get cars here now for 0 tax. What does that have to do with anything? I don't think tax cuts will do much of anything but put more money into the pockets of the people who need it the least.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:49 PM   #2
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You can get cars here now for 0 tax. What does that have to do with anything? I don't think tax cuts will do much of anything but put more money into the pockets of the people who need it the least.
is this a state thing, or do you refer to the 'The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009' where you can itemize your sales tax paid on a car on your federal return? there's a big difference. meaning, you save xx% of your tax paid depending on your income bracket. ...if you paid $2000 tax on a car, and are at the 17% tax bracket, you pay $340 less tax :: finger pop, swirl ::

some states don't charge sales tax far cars anyway......so those people don't benefit from the new 'program' anyway.


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SEC. 1008. ADDITIONAL DEDUCTION FOR STATE SALES TAX AND
EXCISE TAX ON THE PURCHASE OF CERTAIN MOTOR
VEHICLES.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Subsection (a) of section 164 is amended
by inserting after paragraph (5) the following new paragraph:
‘‘(6) Qualified motor vehicle taxes.’’.
(b) QUALIFIED MOTOR VEHICLE TAXES.—Subsection (b) of section
164 is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:
‘‘(6) QUALIFIED MOTOR VEHICLE TAXES.—
‘‘(A) IN GENERAL.—For purposes of this section, the
term ‘qualified motor vehicle taxes’ means any State or
local sales or excise tax imposed on the purchase of a
qualified motor vehicle.
‘‘(B) LIMITATION BASED ON VEHICLE PRICE.—The
amount of any State or local sales or excise tax imposed
on the purchase of a qualified motor vehicle taken into
account under subparagraph (A) shall not exceed the portion
of such tax attributable to so much of the purchase
price as does not exceed $49,500.
‘‘(C) INCOME LIMITATION.—The amount otherwise taken
into account under subparagraph (A) (after the application
of subparagraph (B)) for any taxable year shall be reduced
(but not below zero) by the amount which bears the same
ratio to the amount which is so treated as—
‘‘(i) the excess (if any) of—
‘‘(I) the taxpayer’s modified adjusted gross
income for such taxable year, over
‘‘(II) $125,000 ($250,000 in the case of a joint
return), bears to
‘‘(ii) $10,000.
For purposes of the preceding sentence, the term ‘modified
adjusted gross income’ means the adjusted gross income
of the taxpayer for the taxable year (determined without
regard to sections 911, 931, and 933).
H. R. 1—204
‘‘(D) QUALIFIED MOTOR VEHICLE.—For purposes of this
paragraph—
‘‘(i) IN GENERAL.—The term ‘qualified motor
vehicle’ means—
‘‘(I) a passenger automobile or light truck
which is treated as a motor vehicle for purposes
of title II of the Clean Air Act, the gross vehicle
weight rating of which is not more than 8,500
pounds, and the original use of which commences
with the taxpayer,
‘‘(II) a motorcycle the gross vehicle weight
rating of which is not more than 8,500 pounds
and the original use of which commences with
the taxpayer, and
‘‘(III) a motor home the original use of which
commences with the taxpayer.
‘‘(ii) OTHER TERMS.—The terms ‘motorcycle’ and
‘motor home’ have the meanings given such terms
under section 571.3 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations
(as in effect on the date of the enactment of
this paragraph).
‘‘(E) QUALIFIED MOTOR VEHICLE TAXES NOT INCLUDED
IN COST OF ACQUIRED PROPERTY.—The last sentence of subsection
(a) shall not apply to any qualified motor vehicle
taxes.
‘‘(F) COORDINATION WITH GENERAL SALES TAX.—This
paragraph shall not apply in the case of a taxpayer who
makes an election under paragraph (5) for the taxable
year.
‘‘(G) TERMINATION.—This paragraph shall not apply
to purchases after December 31, 2009.’’.
(c) DEDUCTION ALLOWED TO NONITEMIZERS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Paragraph (1) of section 63(c) is amended
by striking ‘‘and’’ at the end of subparagraph (C), by striking
the period at the end of subparagraph (D) and inserting ‘‘,
and’’, and by adding at the end the following new subparagraph:
‘‘(E) the motor vehicle sales tax deduction.’’.
(2) DEFINITION.—Section 63(c) is amended by adding at
the end the following new paragraph:
‘‘(9) MOTOR VEHICLE SALES TAX DEDUCTION.—For purposes
of paragraph (1), the term ‘motor vehicle sales tax deduction’
means the amount allowable as a deduction under section
164(a)(6). Such term shall not include any amount taken into
account under section 62(a).’’.
(d) TREATMENT OF DEDUCTION UNDER ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM
TAX.—The last sentence of section 56(b)(1)(E) is amended by
striking ‘‘section 63(c)(1)(D)’’ and inserting ‘‘subparagraphs (D) and
(E) of section 63(c)(1)’’.
(e) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by this section
shall apply to purchases on or after the date of
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