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It wouldn't hurt if you actually had enough intelligence and wisdom to be a conservative -- but you can't get your mind around that idea either. No concept of it. It's an added deficiency.
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barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy.
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Let us hope for what may be after the martian winter, revel in what was 24x its expected lifespan, and look forward to its twin Opportunity which was so aptly named. No matter how one looks at this, it was and continues to be a HUGE success.
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Same questions will be asked soon about Ares 1 - a Saturn V on steroids that might need be canceled. A rocket that does what the French and Russians are already doing - for less money. Due to political agendas and White House lawyers rewriting science, America will soon have no vehicles to get to the ISS. A political agenda almost cost us Hubble. Destroyed at least eight major space science experiments that we will not profit from years from now. The death of Spirit demonstrates why success best occurs when science is not rewritten by White House lawyers. And why such successes will be less than what could have happened. Why the best science comes from robots and unmanned vehicles. The death of Spirit (like the death of George Washington) is a tribute to what does work - and why. After six years, Spirit is in a death watch. Opportunity continues. We need more science from such superior solutions – some that were canceled or delayed by decisions in the 2000s. Fundamental to many upcoming question about to be asked because after six years, Spirit may die. BTW, how much power does all that productive work? At one point, Spirit ran all sol on energy consumed in 50 minutes by one 100 watt light bulb. Both Spirit and Opportunity operate all sol on maybe 12 watts of electricity. Survival on Mars is that difficult. |
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Damn, glatt, you beat me to it!!
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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That cartoon is soooo sad.
![]() It occurred to me a month back - if the rovers had been fitted with vertical-axis wind turbines, they would easily survive the winter. Mars is the windiest place in the solar system, the energy generated could produce heat. Hang in there Spirit. Good luck Opportunity. Stop anthropomorphising, Zengum.
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From the Washington Post of 1 Feb 2010:
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From the NY Times of 20 May 2010:
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Lowest temperature for the Rovers is -40 degrees. Spirit was below that temperature when it shutdown. Hope is that Spirit has gone into low power mode - to put all its power into keeping warm. So NASA's deep space network has been listening. Hoping that Spirit will wake up and transmit. If it can generate enough power to turn on the transmitter. And if it survived temperatures below what it was designed to withstand. |
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Spring is in the air. Spirit has been missing since 22 Mar. Hopefully attitude has sufficiently improved that it will talk again in a few weeks - sometime in November.
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It’s been a half Martian year. And still nothing from Spirit. Only thing left is for an official word announcing the loss of Spirit. Of course, Opportunity continues to explore without the so many problems that plaqued Spirit. Whoever in Nasa upgraded the Rover program to two vehicles deserved a big bonus - if not praise. Opportunity existed only because of that decision.
Mars is so harsh that even machines have difficulty surviving. Solar cells - the best we can make - still create only a few hundred watts at best. Sometimes only enough power to light a bulb for a few hours. So cold that (suspected) even electronics fail. Next year, the rover Curiosity should be launched. Because Mars is so inhospitable to man and machine, Curiosity will not use solar cells. Even the best cells do not make it on Mars. Curiosity will be using radioactive batteries. |
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Doctor Wtf
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radioactive batteries are good, but why not wind power? certainly no shortage of that on Mars, especially in winter. Install a vertical turbine that can retract if the storm is too powerful, and you're good to go.
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What a great idea. It's almost as if any old drongo could work for nasa!
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