China wrecked the Copenhagen deal

[aliasyzy]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

You don't have to swallow, you've been steeped in it every day of your life.

This is what you get for shopping at walmart, people.

Could you do something decent except these little tricks to support your statement that America helps a lot in Copenhagen and China wrecked it.

I used to think that Americans have a more open view than people in other countries. I was wrong, at least partially. But it's your business after all. Just stay in your hallucination as long as you are satisfied.


Why Copenhagen didn't work out? You guys can find your answers in this post. None of you is willing to face the core of the problem. You keep blaming others for irrelevent minor things in order to cover up your unwillingness to really do something.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by aliasyzy

Why Copenhagen didn't work out? You guys can find your answers in this post. None of you is willing to face the core of the problem. You keep blaming others for irrelevent minor things in order to cover up your unwillingness to really do something.

IRONY ALARM! IRONY ALARM!

For almost all of the major and upcoming economic powers, it is not in their perceived best interest to limit their fossil fuel use. That means, every major and upcoming economic power will blame others and try to avoid attention to their own faults. Both China and the US do this along with many other countries.

It is obvious that China, along with other countries, wrecked any hopes of getting something meaningful done in Copenhagen. The US has ruined past attempts and I don't believe by any means that they are fully committed to anything binding. I may be wrong but that is my personal thoughts.

But either way, climate change is an issue about power. Whichever country is the most dependent on fossil fuels and has the most political influence will ruin any attempts at binding agreements. In the past it was the US, now, the torch is being passed over to China.

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

IRONY ALARM! IRONY ALARM!

For almost all of the major and upcoming economic powers,
it is not in their perceived best interest to limit their fossil fuel use.
That means, every major and upcoming economic power will blame
others and try to avoid attention to their own faults.
Both China and the US do this along with many other countries.
<snip>
But either way, climate change is an issue about power.
Whichever country is the most dependent on fossil fuels and has the
most political influence will ruin any attempts at binding agreements.
In the past it was the US, now, the torch is being passed over to China.

This seems an appropriate place to insert this link to some light, but important,
reading and pictures about a tiny little place where world events is playing out.
K Street in DC is in the middle of a long, drawn out, law suit over this area.

It is a long, "coffee table" sort of article about a small group of Fillipino soldiers
living on a grounded, derelict ship ostensibly keeping China at bay.
If/when China makes their move, the first response will be:

" We Surrender "


NY Times
10/27/13
By Jeff Himmelman
Photographs and video by Ashley Gilbertson
Produced by Mike Bostock, Clinton Cargill, Shan Carter,
Nancy Donaldson, Tom Giratikanon, Xaquín G.V.,
Steve Maing and Derek Watkins

A Game of Shark
And Minnow