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Old 10-13-2010, 04:21 PM   #1
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Another piece of the puzzle is that it seems when the general public is given very simple, clear guidelines on how to do compression only CPR, they are much more likely to intervene in a cardiac situation since they are more confident in their abilities. That then leads to higher survival rates since at least something is being done during that golden window where minutes matter until more advanced life support via EMS can arrive and take over. I doubt CPR for the professional rescuer will change since we have access to oxygen, bag-valve masks, airway adjuncts, IV's, drugs, etc. It will be interesting to see where this goes though.
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Old 10-13-2010, 09:05 PM   #2
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Another piece of the puzzle is that it seems when the general public is given very simple, clear guidelines on how to do compression only CPR, they are much more likely to intervene in a cardiac situation since they are more confident in their abilities. That then leads to higher survival rates since at least something is being done during that golden window where minutes matter until more advanced life support via EMS can arrive and take over. I doubt CPR for the professional rescuer will change since we have access to oxygen, bag-valve masks, airway adjuncts, IV's, drugs, etc. It will be interesting to see where this goes though.
There will always be a distinction between pre-hospital and hospital based CPR. The current research on pre-hospital CPR as posted is actually based on sound research. You can't compare the apples and oranges of pre-hospital and hospital based CPR with the added element of medical training and lay training. Just a thought.
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Old 10-13-2010, 11:37 PM   #3
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There's a good reason to get trained.

One of the primary things they teach you is to look after yourself first and that it's OK to do that. Nobody would expect anybody to do direct mouth-to-mouth on a vomit-caked stranger. Get trained. You'll be reassured and gain confidence, even if you never have to use it. And you have grandbabies now. They need different care. Go do a CPR and first aid course that includes infant and child care. You'll feel empowered.
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There will always be a distinction between pre-hospital and hospital based CPR. The current research on pre-hospital CPR as posted is actually based on sound research. You can't compare the apples and oranges of pre-hospital and hospital based CPR with the added element of medical training and lay training. Just a thought.
I wasn't attempting to discount lay CPR training, on the contrary actually. What I was trying to say is that anything that gets people to intervene during a cardiac situation is a good thing in my book. It improves the chances of survival and decreases the possibility of permanent damage to the victim. I'm all for compression only adult CPR to be the new lay standard.

IMO we should have some sort of incentive to the general population to get trained and stayed trained such as getting a tax credit of some sort. Relying on goodwill works fine, but the more the merrier.
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Old 10-13-2010, 11:40 PM   #4
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Old 10-13-2010, 11:43 PM   #5
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Quoted For Truth, although I admit Quite Fucking True is a much more colorful way to say it.
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Old 10-14-2010, 12:42 AM   #6
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In the video they mentioned several times, using the CCC method you can't be sued, which we all know is bullshit. Anybody can be sued for any stupid thing. But anyway, if a person that's not certified uses the old CPR, can they be held liable? Even if they stayed in a Holiday Inn Express?
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:26 AM   #7
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It is bullshit, you can break many ribs during chest compressions. And believe me it's easy to do and expected during the course of normal compressions (you can feel them break, kinda gross but oh well). Many states have Good Samaritan laws in place to protect bystanders who intervene during a medical emergency, regardless of their training, if they are acting in good faith.
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