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Old 02-15-2011, 09:13 PM   #11
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Torture is torture. You do it for a good reason, soon you do it for a bad reason. It is evil, and evil acts are not justified by results. "The ends do not justify the means".
So they have you arguing the same nonsense that justified the American defeat in Vietnam. The world is right wing extremists, left wing extremists, and the intelligent people - the moderates. To keep people confused, extremists use the other extreme to promote fear. Promote hate to make this world difficult for moderates.

A perfect example is Sharon of Israel. A man with a history of intentionally creating massacres and other violence for the greater glory is right wing Israelis. His great fear was the Oslo Accords. To subvert peace, an extremist must make being a moderate impossible. That means using hate. So he and 100+ 'close friends' tromped on Temple Mount to incite extremists. Sharon used hate so that moderate Palestinians and Jews would be forced into the ranks of extremism. He needed and successfully inspired Intifada Two.

Then extremists needed Rabin assassinated. And succeeded. Like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and some extremists here, Sharon and Likud all but called for the murder of Rabin. Then could blame it on others. Sarah Palin, et al encouraged an assassination of Congressman Gabriel Giffords and others.

Extremists fear those who learn the conflict is extremist verses moderate. Not right verses left.

What did George Jr do to promote hate? He all but protected bin Laden. Keeping the boogey man alive was important for a "them verses us" attitude so necessary to keep the less informed brainwashed.

Hitler made the same point in his book. Disparage the bourgeois and intellegencia. Then those easiest to manipulate could be recruited into his extremist party. Hate is essential to make life difficult for moderates. Hate of Jews and other ‘inferior’ people further inspired his wacko extremists. . Drives all from the ranks of educated, informed, and tolerant moderates.

Every long time Cellar dweller can tell you in detail how adamant I was about Saddam's WMDs. Moderates will also remind you how correct I also was. Which is why extremists here have even tried to cause me harm (UT censored the attempt). Yes intentionally tried to cause me harm because emotion (not logic) drives extremism. Entertaining feelings rather than thinking logically is the nature of extremism. Even promoting hate of Muslims who would build a mosque in Lower Manhattan. More fodder to encourage extremist hate.

Extremists avidly created death of 4,500 American soldiers for no purpose. Even had Ted Koppel censored for doing a Nightline episode that would honor Americans killed in Mission Accomplished. That honesty considered a threat to the extremist agenda. Extremists will not admit that the president named that war “Mission Accomplished”. Extremists even refused to answer an obvious question (for political reasons). “When do we go after bin Laden?” bin Laden remains alive because extremists needed him to be alive. Today we are all paying for an economic disaster created by Mission Accomplished and other extremist lies.

It is not about left and right. It is about those driven by emotion into the ranks of hate verses others who know by first becoming educated - moderates. A patriot does not run about wrapping himself in a flag. That is for the emotional. Education creates a patriot. Someone who can think rather than be manipulated.

Being an extremist is easy. Hitler simply told his extremists how to think. So they ‘accidentally’ murdered some 8 million Jews – and called that good.

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