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Old 06-11-2011, 04:09 PM   #1
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I disregard anything labelled Political Correctness.

Mostly the term is used a broad slur applied to anything that the average white-van-driving-Joe-Bloggs in the street does not believe in. In any tabloid article about PC, you can guarantee the Tax Payers Alliance will be quoted (in English papers at least).

I've seen multi-culturalism in action - so-called political correctness had nothing to do with it.

Can you believe that these days your daughter's boss isn't allowed to slap her on the arse, suggest she works after hours and claim she's lucky? Or suggest that Tulip should wear pyjamas to work, like her parents did. Or that when Clod's son grows up he'll still be a complete spacker! Ha ha ha! It's PC gone mad!

A lot of what was labelled "PC" (and had nothing to do with politics, then and now) ten years ago now seems abhorrent to many people. And rightly so. We are not moving towards Orwell's narrowing of expression as in 1984, we are moving towards understanding and compassion. There will be blips along the way. Ridiculousness, dead ends, personal agendas.

But cases where "sensitivities" have gone too far (just to use common nomenclature) are few and far between once you actually look into them. In places where the worst apparent offences against common sense happen, there are usually extenuating circumstances. And the rest are simply mis-reported or seriously skewed. Which is why The Telegraph - aka The Torygraph - only rarely picks up stories from the Hate Mail; although they are not immune to band-wagon jumping.

Still - I'm anti-circumcision.
Male and especially female.

The former is unnecessary imho.
The latter is ridiculously cruel.
And no, I don't give a damn if it's a cultural tradition. I'd rather have whole tribes die from high cholesterol after being introduced to Big Mac & Fries than sanction pre-pubescent girls having their clitoris removed and their labia sewn together.

That's nothing to do with "political correctness" in my world. Because I am not a politician. Or anyone who has to appease a large section of society to earn my wages. Mercenary correctness might be a more appropriate word (as in ther dictionary definition, not the Dwellar)
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:45 PM   #2
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Still - I'm anti-circumcision.
Male and especially female.

The former is unnecessary imho.
The latter is ridiculously cruel.
I completely agree about female 'circumcision'. It is actually genital mutilation.

Male circumcision, however, is simply the removal of excess skin. It is nowhere in the same degree as female circumcision. It is also not strictly a religious custom. I know health professionals are split on the benefits of the procedure, but I don't think that there is an overwhelming consensus against it.

Of course, I am biased. Personally, I like my trim and sporty look. And I think you would too if I wasn't happily monogamous.

BTW, is calling you a saucy English babe considered un-politically correct noting that I did not use the term 'tart' or 'wench'?
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:59 PM   #3
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I completely agree about female 'circumcision'. It is actually genital mutilation.

Male circumcision, however, is NOT simply the removal of "excess" skin. While it is nowhere in the same degree as female circumcision, it is still actually genital mutilation.
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Let's call a spade a spade. Would that I had enough excess to spare and not miss it.

I'd like to see if you opted for the procedure at your age now, conscious and w/o anesthesia. We'd see how simple it really is. It's barbaric and stupid.

I am sorry that Crowe felt pressured to apologize for his opinions because it offended a group of people who disagreed with him.
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Old 06-11-2011, 11:21 PM   #4
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I'd like to see if you opted for the procedure at your age now, conscious and w/o anesthesia. We'd see how simple it really is. It's barbaric and stupid.
Have you ever witnessed a circumcision? When done correctly it takes about 10 seconds, so yes, I can imagine having it done on myself as an adult. Also, why no topical anesthetic? Suffering is not part of any requirement.

Adults do get circumcised.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:25 PM   #5
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Have you ever witnessed a circumcision? When done correctly it takes about 10 seconds, so yes, I can imagine having it done on myself as an adult. Also, why no topical anesthetic? Suffering is not part of any requirement.

Adults do get circumcised.
Rich, we're gonna have to agree to disagree here. Alls I know is when I got circumcised I was so freaked out I couldn't speak for nearly a year.
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