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Old 01-02-2002, 11:15 PM   #29
dave
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I'm going to keep this short, 'cause I need to get up in 5 hours.

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Which are then exploited by multinationals with buggar all benefits to the local - or overtly exploited permanently fucking up half the country/people. That material that is needed for capacitors comes to mind, or coal in China, or open cut mining in general.
Which is why they need a government to stand up for them, like I said before.

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The fact you think they can jut get up and wander into a first world country like that makes your point laughable to begin with - didn't you read what I said? The waiting lists and processes associated with getting in are huge, and even illegal methods costs one hell of allot of money (trips to Australia from places like Iran average about US$10,000 ,for us that’s big of them its like a wealthy families life savings.
Do you know what people do when they want something bad enough? <b>They find a way to do it</b>. It's probably not easy, and it's probably not cheap, and it might take a fucking long time, but <b>anything is possible</b>. Don't give me that shit about it being hard. Life is hard, as I'm sure they'd tell you. If you want something bad enough, you make it yours.

As for going there, no, I haven't. The awfulness of the situations is not the point, and neither is the understanding of them. What is important is human nature, and the willpower to enact change. Great people have done great things, even with the most meager of tools. Look no farther than Gandhi. Humans can do whatever they want, as long as they want it bad enough. That's my point, and that's all.
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