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Old 10-11-2012, 07:22 AM   #1
Adak
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Let's mention the hot case in Voter Fraud in Minnesota.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/billfrez...-to-reduce-it/

Democrat Al Franken won his senate seat, by a mere 312 votes, out of 3 million+ votes cast. Now, there are 243 people who have been convicted, or charged with voter fraud in this election.

If Al Franken had lost the election, then Obama's health care bill would not have passed.

Al Gore lost the Presidential election because he lost the state of Florida. He lost Florida by less than 500 votes.
Damn right voter fraud is an important issue!
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:36 AM   #2
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If Al Franken had lost the election, then Obama's health care bill would not have passed.

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Well, of course you have zero evidence to support such a scary fantasy, but you do clearly point out the absolute intransigence of the Republicans in Congress. They had every opportunity to back this winner, but they chose instead to abdicate their sworn duty to do the best for the country and instead stood in opposition to both their President and the good of the country in the interest of ideological purity.

They could have compromised, but they didn't. They *chose* to exclude themselves.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:27 PM   #3
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Well, of course you have zero evidence to support such a scary fantasy, but you do clearly point out the absolute intransigence of the Republicans in Congress. They had every opportunity to back this winner, but they chose instead to abdicate their sworn duty to do the best for the country and instead stood in opposition to both their President and the good of the country in the interest of ideological purity.

They could have compromised, but they didn't. They *chose* to exclude themselves.
Just Google it, BigV - it's not a fantasy, it's been reported in many newspapers and magazines, and the court documents in the convictions for voter fraud, are public records.

We did not CHOOSE to have anyone from either party, commit voter fraud.

Are the facts not good enough to convince you?
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:44 PM   #4
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Z, all State and Federal elections in Oregon are via mail-in ballot.
(County-only measures are usually timed to go out on the same ballot,
and are only rarely a stand-alone election... because it's too expensive)

Our Secretary of State's office is in charge creating (truthful bill titles and descriptions,
and mailing our Voter Information Pamphlet, of mailing ballots to registered voters,
receiving marked ballots, checking the ballot envelope signatures against the registered signatures,
tracking changes of address, counting the ballots, and certifying the results.

There are volunteer "political observers" present at the opening and counting of the mail-in ballots,
but the Sec of State employees have primary say over the validity of ballots,
unless an issue actually goes to court for a legal decision.

Oregon is sort of famous for NOT having voter fraud or dirty politics.

Of course, we're keeping all this secret, watching with knowing smiles
all the other State continue spending their $ all the crazy battles at each election.
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