3/4/2004: Ashoura 2004

[Troubleshooter]

Originally posted by Shattered Soul
You're contradicting yourself here...if it's unproven it's NOT religion, it's art? Huh?

A poor explanation on my part I guess. I was trying to say that if your religion is an expression of how you feel that the universe was created and how you think your creator thinks it needs to be run that is fine, but I am not going to let your artistic endeavor interfere with, or end, my life.

Originally posted by Shattered Soul

It's a looking beyond oneself and, possibly, considering that there may be a first cause and that that first cause may be conscious.

I look beyond myself all of the time, my interest in sociology and philosophy is an extension of that. Philosophy requires some reason to your thinking though.

That being said, if your reason for all of the flubdubbery is a desire for something more ephemeral or more powerful then you more power to you, but there is yet to be shown any form of first cause. Not even the big bang.

Originally posted by Shattered Soul

If you create life in a test tube, and then put it out in the environment, but that life never, EVER sees evidence of your existence, and yet somehow begins believing that some sort of consciousness created it, does it make you any less real because they have no concrete PROOF that you exist?

No it doesn't, but it doesn't make their belief reasonable. Without evidence or proof, it's fiction.

Originally posted by Shattered Soul

"And I'm not going to kill you for not changing your mind about my beliefs either."
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What's that in re to?

To borrow wisdom from Sensei Carlin:
"Millions of dead motherfuckers all because they gave the wrong answer to the god question.

You believe in God?

No.

*doomph*

You believe in God?

Yes.

You believe in my God?

No.

*doomph*

MIllions of dead motherfuckers..."