November 5, 2013 - Queen's Head

[BigV]

Me too.

Except you need to amend your statement to read "Ex-BSA leaders" as those men were removed from their posts as a result of their stupidity.

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Two men already facing possible criminal charges for purposely toppling an ancient rock formation in a state park have now been removed from their posts as Boy Scout leaders.

A northern Utah Boy Scouts council announced Monday that Glenn Taylor and Dave Hall will no longer be allowed to lead scouting troops due to what happened Oct. 11 at Goblin Valley State Park, which they filmed and posted on Facebook.

The move comes on the heels of the national Boy Scouts of America condemning the men's actions last week and promising a review of the incident. The Boy Scouts' Utah National Parks Council posted a statement on its website saying the men's actions are not in line with the principles the organization teaches about preserving nature.

"We encourage all leaders and Scouts to review the 'Leave No Trace' principles, as we are all a part of maintaining the integrity, character and the natural beauty of the outdoors for all living things," the statement said.

[glatt]

It's a juicy story. Boy Scout leaders destroy nature.

But as a BSA adult member, it pisses me off. They did exactly the wrong thing according to a century of BSA tradition and rules. The BSA actively teaches against exactly that behavior. It's a central aspect of what Scouts is all about. When they wore the uniform, they were frauds, and now that they have been kicked out, they are not associated with the BSA at all.

You might as well blame all men, because they were men. Or all Mormons, because from Utah, they are probably Mormons. Or all Republicans, for the same reason.

The BSA has been getting a lot of bad press lately. And some of it is well deserved, but it's not fair to criticize the BSA for the actions of those two criminals.

[Lamplighter]

I won't pile on you, Glatt, because I understand your feelings,
and my intent was more from the direction of smart-alec humor
than direct criticism of BSA.

The BSA may have to live with this for a long time.

But then, a bad example, and even some public criticism,
can be a teaching moment for so many others
... the boys, their parents, scout leaders, and the organization, itself.

[Lamplighter]

This pic is from the same IOD link to pics of the Yehliu area.



We see something like these "wash tub" formations in "freestone" rivers of the western US.
The current swirls a small rock around inside a depression, and over time the "tub" forms.

But look closely at the center in these formations.
It looks as tho there are rocks in there, but they each have cracks
... and each of these cracks is oriented in the same direction !

Anyone have some sort of explanation for these formations ?

[SPUCK]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

This pic is from the same IOD link to pics of the Yehliu area.

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We see something like these "wash tub" formations in "freestone" rivers of the western US.
The current swirls a small rock around inside a depression, and over time the "tub" forms.

But look closely at the center in these formations.
It looks as tho there are rocks in there, but they each have cracks
... and each of these cracks is oriented in the same direction !

Anyone have some sort of explanation for these formations ?

Ass cracks.

[Lamplighter]

Well, if we're doing Rorschach's, what do you make of this... from the same OP link ?

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Well, if we're doing Rorschach's, what do you make of this...

Salt?

Or maybe a bunch o' sandhogs left some sand poos?

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Quick, call the Boy Scouts of America...

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

That was the first thing I thought of...

Originally Posted by BigV

Me too.

Me three.