Donald Trump can suck our collective dicks

[Big Sarge]

I'm not really having a knee jerk reaction to the San Bernadino event. My reaction is more to us being sucked deeper into the ISIL/Daesh and the likelihood US troops will be sacrificed. Here's the sitrep as I understand:

1. The Iraqi Army folded and abandoned their equipment to a smaller ill equipped force.
2. Military age males from Syria and Iraq have fled to Europe rather than fight in defense of their own homeland.
3. President Obama has stated he will destroy ISIL. His precision air campaign has had limited success in disruption, but the US has been forced to deploy SOF troops on the ground.
4. US military commanders have stated conventional ground forces will have to be deployed for the destruction of ISIL. This will surely guarantee another OIF/OEF type drawn out campaign - US causalities and multiple deployment cycles.

So yes, I fear we are being drawn into a fight that will see US troops sacrificed for an area the indigenous people refused to fight for and the World expects us to do the dirty work. The US has recently downsized the military and less than 0.4% serve on active duty, but they will carry the burden. When they return home, the VA system is struggling to provide care and the veteran suicide rate is high.

Donal Trump, whom I do not support, has stated his desire to carpet bomb. I see merit in it to save our troops from meaningless sacrifice. Dana, I hate to throw you under the bus, but you said it was better to see soldiers die than civilian casualties. I recommend you start a grass roots campaign to send British troops to Syria and state you would rather see soldiers die than risk civilian casualties.

Guys, remember this only a political discussion and no matter what I love you all.

[xoxoxoBruce]

United Nations data

Previously, PolitiFact has examined claims about Syrian refugees. In October, Donald Trump said "there aren't that many women; there aren't that many children" among Syrian refugees. We ranked that statement False.

The United Nations keeps track of more than 4 million registered Syrian refugees, with an online database that includes specific demographic data.

Let’s start by leaving out the other qualifiers — young and able-bodied — and look at whether the "vast majority" of refugees are men. We need not split hairs on what constitutes a "vast majority" here, since the gender breakdown is pretty evenly split; in hard numbers, the majority of refugees is actually female.

Further, to look at only the male refugees – which amount to 49.7 percent of the total – less than half of that population is age 18 or older. Men ages 18 to 59 comprise about 22 percent of all Syrian refugees.

Contrary to Fiorina’s statement, most refugees overall are children age 17 or younger.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

Dana, I hate to throw you under the bus, but you said it was better to see soldiers die than civilian casualties. I recommend you start a grass roots campaign to send British troops to Syria and state you would rather see soldiers die than risk civilian casualties.
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That is not what I said.