USA, any news lately?

[DanaC]

And my point is: university -- where (currently) up is down and in is out -- is not the best measure of things.

Well- the people who were protesting the nazi rally in Charlottesville weren't all university students - the removal of the statue had been voted on by the people of Charlottesville and a bunch of white supremacists from all over the country descended on their town to hold a rally. Many of those protesting their presence there were just ordinary citizens of the town.

Also as a former member of the Labour party I knew plenty of old-Labour socialists who had never been near a university - I know lots of union members at my work place, many of whom would consider themselves on the socialist side of things - and not many of them have more than a high-school education (in terms of formal education, they are of course mostly highly trained and experienced in their field)

This notion that socialism (or marxism) is the province of a university educated, middle-class, intelligentsia just doesn't cut it. They may be the ones who dig into it at an academic level but the labour movement has also generally been one of the streams of socialism.