Ye Olde Videoe Clippe Threade - Page 184

zippyt · 11-01-2012, 05:35 PM

Verry Cool !!!!!

bigw00dy · 11-01-2012, 09:08 PM

Monmouth service area on the Garden State Parkway here in New Jersey yesterday afternoon. That is the line for fuel.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-02-2012, 12:27 AM

Glad you checked in Woody.

bigw00dy · 11-02-2012, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Glad you checked in Woody.

Thanks!!
Yeah we made it...but my town (Tuckerton) is ravaged. Along with every other coastal town. Sandy was one evil witch!

Here is a view from Sunday night high tide in Tuckerton

DanaC · 11-02-2012, 03:29 PM

Gotta love TED:

plthijinx · 11-05-2012, 07:11 PM

Here is link to the story.

who was at fault? both actually. the driver of the SUV for not stopping and looking both ways and the pilot for coming in too low. it's arguable about his low approach. i fly a low approach quite often. but never when there is a road on the approach end of the runway. i'll make sure i have at least a 50' clearance if so and land a tad long.

bigw00dy · 11-05-2012, 08:05 PM

BigV · 11-05-2012, 07:26 PM

I'm not a lawyer. But that looks like 100% pilot error from here. Maaaaybe there's a traffic signal on the road saying, planes have the right of way, but I've never seen one. The car's on the road, where cars belong. The plane's in the air, but where cars go. If the car had been on the runway, different story. Doesn't look like that from here though. I like the dialog "you pulled out in front of a plane!" wtf? A plane? I remember being trained to look for the kid chasing the ball from between parked cars but not being attacked from the sky.

It looks like everybody's probably ok, I sure hope so.

plthijinx · 11-05-2012, 07:40 PM

Yeah everyone was ok for the most part. Driver of the SUV got a couple staples in his head.

I can see your point of view on this but anytime a road passes in front of a runway threshhold the plane has the right of way. Driver, in this case, is an avid visitor of the airport there and should have known to look both ways before crossing the approach path. Meh, i still say they were both at fault.

I will pull out the FAR's and have a look...(faa regs)

xoxoxoBruce · 11-05-2012, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

I'm not a lawyer. But that looks like 100% pilot error from here. Maaaaybe there's a traffic signal on the road saying, planes have the right of way, but I've never seen one. .

It's a private road but there's a stop sign(painted on pavement) on both sides of the runway.

BigV · 11-05-2012, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

It's a private road but there's a stop sign(painted on pavement) on both sides of the runway.

Huh. You mean like at approximately the spot on the road where the suv appears to be in the still of the vid? Like, kind of in line with the windsock? That might change my mind some. I'll change my position to shared fault. OF COURSE the driver didn't think, ooooo, I'll just beat the plane. He just didn't see the plane, probably because he didn't look for the plane.

I was thinking for myself that I wouldn't see the plane because I wouldn't look for the plane because I've been driving a LONG time and I just never look out for planes. God knows how many close calls I've had!!

xoxoxoBruce · 11-05-2012, 11:40 PM

He did kind of a rolling stop, probably glancing to his right to see if there was a plane taking off.

BigV · 11-05-2012, 09:34 PM

Oh. My. God.

(happy tears, of course)

plthijinx · 11-05-2012, 10:03 PM

Yeah V i totally agree with ya there...pretty cool breakthrough! Reminds me of the movie Awakenings with DeNiro and Williams using L-dopa to wake up the patients. (Illness escapes me now, on phone and too tired to look it up)

Oh, i did find an advisory circular from the FAA but it had to do with vehicles operating on the airport for the airport. Any rate...it did say all planes have the right of way unless otherwise specified by air traffic control (with operations at a towered airport)

BigV · 11-05-2012, 11:18 PM

I agree that the vehicle is much better equipped to stop than the airplane is. And regardless of the "right of way", no one wants a collision, this wasn't some air to ground game of chicken. If the kid jumped out from between cars, I'd fucking dynamite the brakes--despite the fact that I have the right of way (assuming I did have the right of way). Not only am I not a lawyer, I am no pilot either (though I do have a new honorific, TBA) but that just looked like he came in too low. I just don't know that I'd be thinking, "Ooooh, better watch out for airplanes."

11-01-2012, 05:35 PM	#1
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Verry Cool !!!!! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

11-01-2012, 09:08 PM	#2
bigw00dy I'm here once in a while Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 458	Monmouth service area on the Garden State Parkway here in New Jersey yesterday afternoon. That is the line for fuel. __________________ flickr®

11-02-2012, 12:27 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Glad you checked in Woody. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-05-2012, 07:11 PM	#6
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	Here is link to the story. who was at fault? both actually. the driver of the SUV for not stopping and looking both ways and the pilot for coming in too low. it's arguable about his low approach. i fly a low approach quite often. but never when there is a road on the approach end of the runway. i'll make sure i have at least a 50' clearance if so and land a tad long. __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

11-05-2012, 08:05 PM	#7
bigw00dy I'm here once in a while Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 458	__________________ flickr®

11-05-2012, 07:26 PM	#8
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I'm not a lawyer. But that looks like 100% pilot error from here. Maaaaybe there's a traffic signal on the road saying, planes have the right of way, but I've never seen one. The car's on the road, where cars belong. The plane's in the air, but where cars go. If the car had been on the runway, different story. Doesn't look like that from here though. I like the dialog "you pulled out in front of a plane!" wtf? A plane? I remember being trained to look for the kid chasing the ball from between parked cars but not being attacked from the sky. It looks like everybody's probably ok, I sure hope so. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

11-05-2012, 07:40 PM	#9
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	Yeah everyone was ok for the most part. Driver of the SUV got a couple staples in his head. I can see your point of view on this but anytime a road passes in front of a runway threshhold the plane has the right of way. Driver, in this case, is an avid visitor of the airport there and should have known to look both ways before crossing the approach path. Meh, i still say they were both at fault. I will pull out the FAR's and have a look...(faa regs) __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

11-05-2012, 11:40 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	He did kind of a rolling stop, probably glancing to his right to see if there was a plane taking off. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-05-2012, 09:34 PM	#13
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Oh. My. God. (happy tears, of course) __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

11-05-2012, 10:03 PM	#14
plthijinx Master Dwellar Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,197	Yeah V i totally agree with ya there...pretty cool breakthrough! Reminds me of the movie Awakenings with DeNiro and Williams using L-dopa to wake up the patients. (Illness escapes me now, on phone and too tired to look it up) Oh, i did find an advisory circular from the FAA but it had to do with vehicles operating on the airport for the airport. Any rate...it did say all planes have the right of way unless otherwise specified by air traffic control (with operations at a towered airport) __________________ For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream.

11-05-2012, 11:18 PM	#15
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I agree that the vehicle is much better equipped to stop than the airplane is. And regardless of the "right of way", no one wants a collision, this wasn't some air to ground game of chicken. If the kid jumped out from between cars, I'd fucking dynamite the brakes--despite the fact that I have the right of way (assuming I did have the right of way). Not only am I not a lawyer, I am no pilot either (though I do have a new honorific, TBA) but that just looked like he came in too low. I just don't know that I'd be thinking, "Ooooh, better watch out for airplanes." __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

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