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dar512 · 04-13-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I'm glad they think I'm nuts. I am nuts.

Ok. Now I've got to go along with LJ. This is a pose.

Flint · 04-13-2006, 11:35 AM

Why would it be? What have I got to lose? All I can be is myself.

dar512 · 04-13-2006, 11:43 AM

Oh, there's lots of possible reasons for taking a pose. I don't know you well enough to speculate.

But I find it hard to believe that anyone prefers for people to think they are crazy.

FYREDEUS · 04-15-2006, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512

Oh, there's lots of possible reasons for taking a pose. I don't know you well enough to speculate.

But I find it hard to believe that anyone prefers for people to think they are crazy.

I definitely prefer for people to think I'm crazy...especially all my shrinks who've kept telling me I'm sane

dar512 · 04-13-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

All I can be is myself.

BTW this chant is getting old. It's a cop-out. You are who you choose to be.

Flint · 04-13-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

You are who you choose to be.

I agree 100% with that. Another example of what I consider to be common sense.

I don't see conflicts or contradictions that y'all are perceiving. That is, because I am me, I know who I am, and I am comfortable with myself. Because I am me, I know how I act, for what reasons, etc. - and logic dictates that I am the final judge on subjective interpretations of my internal motivations, etc. (notwithstanding the fact that you are welcome to make observations of my behavior based on the limited bits of text you have as an indicator of what makes me tick - which I am basically inviting by making threads like this)

The unanswered question is what specifically do you find hard to believe about this? What specifically about this appears to be posturing, IE what could I hope to gain by making false statements about myself to strangers on the internet?

lumberjim · 04-13-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

IE what could I hope to gain by making false statements about myself to strangers on the internet?

Did you really just ask that?

dar512 · 04-13-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

The unanswered question is what specifically do you find hard to believe about this? What specifically about this appears to be posturing, IE what could I hope to gain by making false statements about myself to strangers on the internet?

You appear to be fairly rational, at least as much as you can tell on a board. Yet you profess to intentionally use behavior which is counter-productive. Making sure that co-workers think you are crazy will not enhance your career, whatever it may be. Making sure that all your friends are nuts will not result in a useful support network in times of need.

So either you are a poser who wants us to think he's a loose cannon, or you really are the kind of nut who does stuff that sabotages their own life.

Spexxvet · 04-13-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I don't see conflicts or contradictions that y'all are perceiving.

How about this conflict:

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Originally Posted by Flint

This is how it works: you speak your mind, without mincing words, without sugar-coating things, without dumbing things down - and those that either don't understand or don't agree with what you are saying will not want to talk to you anymore.

[quote=Flint] If someone wants to talk to me about how Toby Keith is a true patriot or that the liberal media conspiracy is undermining the moral fiber of America, I can simply say something about Quantum Physics or whether they prefer Vietnamese cuisine to Thai cuisine. They will probably be either confused or vaguely offended (scenario #1), or maybe they will have some meaningful contribution on the subject (scenario #2). [/QUOTE

Above, you admit that acted in a way that was meant to cause a response. So when you say:

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Originally Posted by Flint

it's beyond my power to influence the perceptions experienced inside the heads of other people, and I make it a policy not to worry about things I have no control over.

You are talking out your ass. Or just posing in one instance or the other. :p

lumberjim · 04-13-2006, 11:38 AM

or you could be someone really cool. like a hard ass that shoots from the hip, and gets all the chicks. please. your whole vibe smacks of effort.

Flint · 04-13-2006, 12:09 PM

Dude, you quoted it, you tell me.

Undertoad · 04-13-2006, 12:16 PM

Either you're lying here, or you're lying in "Every Person Has Value!" where you say

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"every person has value"? that's my schtick. you beat me to it!

and

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What if you step outside your own perspective, and see the world through someone else's eyes, and you realize that they're a complete f**king idiot?

Then you haven't stepped outside your own persepctive. Try again.

Your approach two days ago was that subjectivism requires us to appreciate others' point of view by actually trying to understand their perspective.

Your approach today suggests that you rudely write off entire people you disagree with by violating social convention. It's OK to be a dick to people who don't share your values or sense of style.

Flint · 04-13-2006, 12:20 PM

That's a very argumentative interpretation. I could do the post-by-post rebuttal thing, but, nah.

Flint · 04-13-2006, 12:37 PM

@dar512: Or you haven't understood what I meant.

dar512 · 04-13-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

@dar512: Or you haven't understood what I meant.

Nah. Your meaning is pretty clear.

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I'm glad they think I'm nuts. I am nuts. If they are nuts too then we will get along famously. If not, well, maybe both of us could find somebody better to talk to.

Not too many ways to read that.

Most folks here say what's on their mind and leave it at that. You may not agree with them or like them, but at least you know where you stand. Since you ask, my best guess at this point is that you like to play mind games.

04-13-2006, 11:43 AM	#3
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Oh, there's lots of possible reasons for taking a pose. I don't know you well enough to speculate. But I find it hard to believe that anyone prefers for people to think they are crazy. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

04-13-2006, 11:38 AM	#10
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	or you could be someone really cool. like a hard ass that shoots from the hip, and gets all the chicks. please. your whole vibe smacks of effort. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

04-13-2006, 12:09 PM	#11
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Dude, you quoted it, you tell me. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-13-2006, 12:20 PM	#13
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	That's a very argumentative interpretation. I could do the post-by-post rebuttal thing, but, nah. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-13-2006, 12:37 PM	#14
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	@dar512: Or you haven't understood what I meant. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

04-13-2006, 11:35 AM	#2
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Why would it be? What have I got to lose? All I can be is myself. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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