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Old 12-08-2006, 09:54 AM   #1
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I'm not morally superior, but I do feel uncomfortable with an eye for an eye. I don't generally join in discussions about how to handle paedophiles because if there was an easy answer I think we would already be aware of it.

I don't think this man is misunderstood, or that his case is heartbreaking, but I don't think he deserves to be murdered. His desires lead him to actions which damage other people - this is the case with many criminals. The danger with vigilantism in my mind is the potential for people to believe they are above the law.

Perhaps I would feel differently if I had children.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:36 PM   #2
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Perhaps I would feel differently if I had children.
perhaps.

But probably not.

I have children.

One thing children teach you is that punishment and the fear of it are often not terribly effective in reducing unacceptable behaviour. Prevention is generally your best bet. Obviously, death is a good way of preventing people from reoffending, but if it were an effective deterrent, death row would be empty. We need to find a way to use convicted criminals in a prevention program.
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:15 PM   #3
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We need to find a way to use convicted criminals in a prevention program.
Graphic, gory, public torture and execution?
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:06 AM   #4
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Apparently NYS is not going to address the problem. Sheldon Silver is going to get creamed in the press when the next freed child abuser repeats.
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:56 AM   #5
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*waits patiently for the morally superior among us to defend this misunderstood man's heartbreaking plight*
I didn't think you did 'patience'.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:03 AM   #6
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I didn't think you did 'patience'.
Oh, my bad! it was the CO poisoning! It does that to me sometimes, ha ha!

*any mistakes I make are due to CO poisoning--otherwise, I'd be prefect! OH, ha ha! I did it again! oops!
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:03 AM   #7
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I saw the suffering the man who had molested children was enduring

ah, there we are!
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:21 AM   #8
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ah, there we are!
Holy shit, Brianna. That was taken way out of context.
  • Not completely quoted.
  • Original quote was presented theoretically.
  • From another thread -- where the discussion concerned GWB.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:12 AM   #9
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*Smiles* such a pity you never actually did suffer CO poisoning; some of your posts would improve I'm sure.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:29 AM   #10
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Ah--why should I?

Dana taught me all about taking texts out of context. She's pretty evil.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:49 AM   #11
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Ah--why should I?

Dana taught me all about taking texts out of context. She's pretty evil.
Would you accept this tripe from one of your kids? "Bobby did it first!"
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:45 AM   #12
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Dana taught me all about taking texts out of context. She's pretty evil.
Aheh.....I am evil.

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A fair solution would let him live his life in peace after serving his time, and also protect society. Too bad you can't have both here.
I think that's very well stated.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:46 AM   #13
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Aheh.....I am evil.
You don't have to tell me!

Are you obsessed with me, Dana? You keep following me around.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:48 AM   #14
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You are starting to sound a little paranoid.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:59 PM   #15
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As a bonus they get to be involved in group and individual therapy in which they discuss the details of their offenses, again and again. For the participants whose turn it is to listen to the speaker, this is better than a 900 number
That's an interesting way of looking at their therapy sessions. Certainly made me think.
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