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Old 03-15-2007, 01:19 PM   #1
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Yes, yes it does seem phobic.
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Old 03-15-2007, 05:44 PM   #2
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They miss a lot. I wonder why the conservatives seem so outnumbered?

Oh wait.
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Old 03-17-2007, 01:57 PM   #3
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5. Our solar system is one of the few that has only one sun. Only one sun and only one moon: this uniqueness may reflect the existence of only one God.

that's one hell of a "may"!
but..if.. there's only one god.. and 'he' is running the whole schebang then wouldn't all the solar systems in all the universe have only one sun?.. oh! right! because we're the only inhabited planet in the whole infinite universe! sorry... I forgot.

wow... look up dinosaurs.. back in kansas the prevailing theory among the whack-jobs.. er.. I mean religiously hardcore (by which I mean the neo-christians) is that dinosaur bones were placed in the earth by the devil to test our faith.. haven't found if crapopedia here espouses that theory yet..
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Old 03-17-2007, 02:32 PM   #4
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Have fun and read the article on Ann Coulter, it's defense of the 'faggot' remark, and complaints about the double standard held by the press in protesting those remarks.
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Old 03-17-2007, 04:42 PM   #5
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c. 1801 A.D.
I don't know about you, but it really irks me when people use A.D. incorrectly. It goes BEFORE the date. B.C. comes after.
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Old 03-18-2007, 10:35 PM   #6
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Who made that rule, I've never heard it before, which doesn't have any bearing, but strange nobody has mentioned it. I know you are a repository for a wealth of stuff we mortals don't know.
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Old 03-18-2007, 11:30 PM   #7
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You have to log in to edit pages.

Oh dear. I wonder why that is? Perhaps they don't want anonymous users slapping {{dubious}}, {{false}} and {{NPOV}} tags all through the articles?

The article on the Moon is so hilarious. The sad bit, however, is that some people might actually take it seriously.
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Old 03-19-2007, 01:00 AM   #8
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A.D. means "Anno Domini" or "In the Year of Our Lord" as in "On the 14th of May in the Year of Our Lord 1607 the Jamestown Colony was established."

B.C., meaning (years) Before Christ, comes after the date, as in "Cleopatra reigned in Egypt from 51 to 30 B.C."

If you're using B.C.E. and C.E., (Before Common Era and Common Era), those both come after the date.

As usual, Wikipedia has more complete poop.
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:17 AM   #9
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If you're using B.C.E. and C.E., (Before Common Era and Common Era), those both come after the date.

As usual, Wikipedia has more complete poop.
Exactly why we scientists view Wikipedia with some measure of distrust. Apart from being a scientist, I have also had a life-long love of history. I am a member of The Australian Centre for Egyptology, and BCE means before Christ (ie. up to and including 1 BC), and CE means after Christ (ie. from 1 AD on). There is no year zero - that is why 2000 was the last year of the 20th century, and 2001, the first of the 21st. The "common erra" terms came into affect due to "religious sensibilities" - that is, not wanting to offend non Christians. The fact that the date of Christ's birth was calculated (as it has turned out, incorrectly), several centuries after the fact, does not mean that the Common Erra starts from the date of calculation - it replaces AD.

From the Oxford dictionary:

BCE

• abbreviation before the Common Era (indicating dates before the Christian era, used especially by non-Christians).

CE

• abbreviation 1 Church of England. 2 Common Era.
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Old 03-19-2007, 06:30 AM   #10
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Exactly why we scientists view Wikipedia with some measure of distrust.

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Old 03-19-2007, 11:46 AM   #11
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B.C. and A.D. only exist in Christainity as numerous ego-maniacs have tried to stop / change tiime.
for instance, September would have been the 7th month, October the 8th month, November the 9th month, December the 10th month.
As i am not a scientist, i present this in laymens' terms. :p
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Old 03-19-2007, 06:12 PM   #12
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B.C. and A.D. only exist in Christainity as numerous ego-maniacs have tried to stop / change tiime.
You are correct that the concept of BC and AD came out of Christianity, and that there is a certain level of insanity in trying to manipulate our time-line, but some method of independent dating was needed. At the time that the idea of BC and AD was put forward, no one had an "earliest" starting date (yes, I know, several were "calculated"). Different societies and religions had (and still have), their own calendars, and starting dates. I am not a Christian, though I believe most strongly that Jesus lived, and was a great man.

Historians for centuries have accepted year one AD as a starting point to move forward, and this coincidently gives year one BC a starting point moving backwards, that has no artificial limit. So being tied to some calendar that starts at 1, but does not recognise anything before that date, would be like tying our hands behind our back.

It does not matter that the Christian method was adopted. It does not matter that Jesus was likely born somewhere between 4 BC and 7 BC. The BC/AD system has worked. Personally, I would prefer to stick to BC/AD rather than BCE/CE, but as I said previously, historians decided that the old terminology was offensive to too many people, so they changed it.

BTW, I started this thread saying that the conservapedia worries me. I do not support it in *any* way. My concerns with Wikipedia are that entries can be added and modified by anyone, regardess of the validity of what they write. The "editors" are just random people on the Net. There is no vetting of their knowledge or experience. Jim Wales admitted this in an NPR interview some weeks ago.
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:34 AM   #13
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You will much prefer using Conservapedia compared to Wikipedia if you want concise, clean answers free of "political correctness".

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Old 03-19-2007, 02:39 AM   #14
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For "ketchup"...emphasis mine:

As part of changes proposed by the USDA and implemented into law, ketchup was declared a vegetable by the Republican Reagan administration on March 9, 1981; this was "so public schools could include it in their balanced meal plan," However, liberal critics charged that it would allow schools to count ketchup as a vegetable in place of "real" vegetables like potatoes and the like. After a volcano of negative publicity, the USDA and the Reagan Administration stopped refering to condiments as vegetables.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:15 PM   #15
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For "ketchup"...emphasis mine:

As part of changes proposed by the USDA and implemented into law, ketchup was declared a vegetable by the Republican Reagan administration on March 9, 1981; this was "so public schools could include it in their balanced meal plan," However, liberal critics charged that it would allow schools to count ketchup as a vegetable in place of "real" vegetables like potatoes and the like. After a volcano of negative publicity, the USDA and the Reagan Administration stopped refering to condiments as vegetables.
Hmmm, how did the word liberal disappear the first time this paragraph was posted?
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