Hotels Get Smart, Remove Bibles - Page 2

11-26-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

sure, why not? no one can force you to read what is sitting in a drawer. if some group wants to raise the money needed and build the infrastructure to donate the texts i have no problem with them sitting in a drawer waiting for someone who is interested in reading them. i don't see it as any different than all the little flyers you find in a hotel lobby area showing local attractions.

i honestly don't see what the big deal is either way. if a hotel owner wants to put them there, cool. if not, cool. i book my hotels based on the quality of the property, proximity to my reason for visiting, and price - in that order. the contents of the nightstand drawer don't enter into the equation.

The hotel does not put them there, the Gideons do so as a proselytizing method.
I think they have the right to allow it, just think it is sad.
A non-stalk/insult post *has heart-attack*.

lookout123 · 11-26-2007, 07:43 PM

gideons don't literally go room to room replacing every bible. hotel employees do. gideons provide the bibles free of charge and have asked the hotel owners and management to place them there.

classicman · 11-26-2007, 08:15 PM

I was out of town for a funeral of a dear family member. While staying in the hotel I found comfort in reading some passages in the Bible. I also referenced things from it for my memorial speech. Why is that such a problem for you? If you don't want to read it - don't. Same as some of your posts, or mine, or anyones for that matter.

Cloud · 11-26-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

If you don't want to read it - don't. Same as some of your posts, or mine, or anyones for that matter.

Good point. Seems kinda familiar . . .

Kitsune · 11-26-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Why is that such a problem for you?

This whole thing is a non-issue -- the Bibles are still available at the front desk upon request at these hotels and no one should really care if the books actually are placed in the drawers.

Aliantha · 11-26-2007, 09:06 PM

maybe they put bibles in hotel rooms for all the people who decide to get loaded then do themselves over in them. Maybe some people think they should be there for those people who might find some solace in the book which they'd never ask for if it weren't there.

Personally, if you don't want to read it, then don't. I agree with kitsune here. It's a non-issue.

11-27-2007, 12:48 AM

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Why is that such a problem for you?

It is not a problem beyond that I find religious proselytizing to be a low/deceitful practice and enjoy seeing anything that gets in its way.

classicman · 11-27-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

It is not a problem beyond that I find religious proselytizing to be a low/deceitful practice and enjoy seeing anything that gets in its way.

[on rant]Well I see your bashing of religion, any religion, something you choose to not believe in or are incapable of believing in, to be equally offensive. You seem to have a heck of a negative attitude. Why don't you try something more positive like love or caring? I have read many, many of your posts about you family and so on. Why is it so hard for you to treat others with that same love and respect? Oh thats right - you don't believe.....nevermind - as you were. [off rant]

Ibby · 11-27-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

[on rant]Well I see your bashing of religion, any religion, something you choose to not believe in or are incapable of believing in, to be equally offensive. You seem to have a heck of a negative attitude. Why don't you try something more positive like love or caring? I have read many, many of your posts about you family and so on. Why is it so hard for you to treat others with that same love and respect? Oh thats right - you don't believe.....nevermind - as you were. [off rant]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't blame rage's neuroses and general dickishness on his atheism. I'm very much an atheist, but you don't see me being a bitch about everything, do you?
Don't confuse cause, effect, and coincidence.

Shawnee123 · 11-27-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't blame rage's neuroses and general dickishness on his atheism. I'm very much an atheist, but you don't see me being a bitch about everything, do you?
Don't confuse cause, effect, and coincidence.

It's hard to be a little bit atheist.

Ibby · 11-27-2007, 09:02 AM

Not at all; what do you think agnosticism is?

Shawnee123 · 11-27-2007, 09:02 AM

Agnostics admit they don't have a clue. Atheists believe there is no god, no way. Big difference.

Ibby · 11-27-2007, 09:08 AM

Maybe I shoulda put a :sarcasm: smiley in there...

classicman · 11-27-2007, 10:05 AM

nah - just admit your mistake and move on - She got ya and you know it.

Happy Monkey · 11-27-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Agnostics admit they don't have a clue. Atheists believe there is no god, no way. Big difference.

No, agnostics believe it is impossible to know. Atheists lack belief in gods. You can be one, the other, both, or neither. Some atheists have afirmative belief in the nonexistence of gods, but most simply lack belief.

11-26-2007, 07:43 PM	#17
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	gideons don't literally go room to room replacing every bible. hotel employees do. gideons provide the bibles free of charge and have asked the hotel owners and management to place them there. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

11-26-2007, 09:06 PM	#21
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	maybe they put bibles in hotel rooms for all the people who decide to get loaded then do themselves over in them. Maybe some people think they should be there for those people who might find some solace in the book which they'd never ask for if it weren't there. Personally, if you don't want to read it, then don't. I agree with kitsune here. It's a non-issue. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-27-2007, 09:02 AM	#26
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Not at all; what do you think agnosticism is? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

11-27-2007, 09:08 AM	#28
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Maybe I shoulda put a :sarcasm: smiley in there... __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

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11-26-2007, 08:15 PM	#18
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I was out of town for a funeral of a dear family member. While staying in the hotel I found comfort in reading some passages in the Bible. I also referenced things from it for my memorial speech. Why is that such a problem for you? If you don't want to read it - don't. Same as some of your posts, or mine, or anyones for that matter.

11-27-2007, 09:02 AM	#27
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Agnostics admit they don't have a clue. Atheists believe there is no god, no way. Big difference.

11-27-2007, 10:05 AM	#29
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	nah - just admit your mistake and move on - She got ya and you know it.

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