Worst-Made Cars on the Road 2010

[Cloud]

their what?

[monster]

evaluations, apparently

[Pete Zicato]

I think Cloud's original was correct.

"At least they're not paid like Consumer Digest."

At least they are not paid like Consumer Digest.

[lumberjim]

their evaluations, pete....

not there evaluations.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Cloud

their what?

The way the weight features and performance.

If A has 5 doors, and B has 2 doors, they'll rave about A being much better for loading groceries, child seats, etc.
If A gets 40mpg and 0to60 in 12 seconds, and B gets 30mpg and 0to60 in 7 seconds, they'll choose A as being much better.

I disagree, what they deem better, isn't what I want.

[Cloud]

but at least all the criteria are set out for you, so you can determine the relative weight of the factors you DO want

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

their evaluations, pete....

not there evaluations.

Gotcha.



Nevermind.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Cloud

but at least all the criteria are set out for you, so you can determine the relative weight of the factors you DO want

Yes, but what Forbes has done is just parrot this is best, this is worst, without asking why. That's why I'm skeptical of their list.

[Cloud]

Forbes? What are you talking about? If it's the original list in the first post, that isn't the same as the CR one.

Do you have a better source for evaluation and testing of cars?

[Carruthers]

My experience of American cars is pretty limited and possibly somewhat dated, however on my visits to the US I have rented a Buick Le Sabre (once) and the Chevrolet Cavalier on three occasions.
I found them comfortable and powerful enough and all the fixtures and fittings were more than adequate. Admittedly I doubt very much whether any vehicle would have been more than about six months old so they weren't going to exhibit problems associated with wear and tear. I notice that Chevrolet cars appear in second and third place on the list of the worst, but can the whole range be said to be poor, or is it simply a case of a couple of rogue models?
Generally speaking, do Buick and Chevrolet have a reasonable reputation amongst US drivers?

Carruthers

ETA: My last visit to the US was in 2004. I did say my experience was somewhat dated.

[fargon]

I drive a '99 Buick La Saber, and I'm very satisfied.

[Carruthers]

Originally Posted by fargon

I drive a '99 Buick La Saber, and I'm very satisfied.

It was a '99 model that I drove. I rented it at Denver and it was brand new; it didn't have plates, just a large sticker in the rear window. I had opted for a smaller model when I booked the car, but on arrival I was offered the Buick which was two categories higher but only had a one category higher rate. I suspect that they didn't have the car I had originally requested and would have had to offer me the Buick at the original rate anyway. However, I had left the house at an unearthly hour, driven sixty miles to the airport, spent an age waiting to board and then had a nine hour flight, so I was always going to say 'YES' to anything.

That reminds me. I must find the photo I took of the Buick.

Carruthers

[jinx]

Originally Posted by Cloud

Forbes? What are you talking about? If it's the original list in the first post, that isn't the same as the CR one.

From the Forbes article

To determine our list of the worst-made cars on the road, we started with the lowest-rated vehicles from four reliability and performance studies conducted this year. Those studies are all from Consumer Reports: The Most Reliable Cars Report; Best and Worst Values Report; Best and Worst Safety Performance Survey; and the CR overall scores for 2010 vehicles.

[Cloud]

interesting, 'cause CR has it's own list of worst cars (which I posted), and that isn't it. So they just picked and chose? But maybe I'm comparing apples to oranges? My list is the worst new cars.

[TheMercenary]

I like CR for most of the stuff. We get the print edition every month. The biggest problem is that by the time the stuff makes it to print the model they tested is way out of date so you still have to guess in the general direction of near models but that is not the way it always turns out. But generally I like the way they report, esp for cars. BTW this years auto edition had all the Toyotas as best buy but with a reservation for the accelerator issue. So far I still like Toyota.