We have met the enemy and he is us! Poll - Page 2

Shawnee123 · 10-21-2010, 09:16 AM

I hate that term: Big Government. What does it really mean? Under one party we have less governing entities? HUH? We live in a BIG country, with BIG corporations and BIG amounts of peoples and BIG states and BIG monies...

More rhetoric. As MTP says: working for government small enough to fit inside your bedroom.

When you say BIG GOVERNMENT and TAXES it pisses people off, and they don't even know why. Ragers against the machine but they know nothing about the machine. Sheep.

Meh meh meh. Rinse and repeat.

TheMercenary · 10-21-2010, 09:20 AM

Big Government means expanding and growing government and reaching past the edicts of their elected office beyond the powers given to them in our Constitution. More people understand it as they discuss it and read about it. I don't like it either, which is why I am against it.

Stormieweather · 10-21-2010, 10:45 AM

I think most people have short memories when it comes to politics. Everything that is right/wrong TODAY gets blamed on/credited to those in office TODAY.

It's a pretty thankless job to make changes now whose effects will only be felt years down the road.

If only there wasn't so much greed in the world.

SamIam · 10-21-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormieweather

I think most people have short memories when it comes to politics. Everything that is right/wrong TODAY gets blamed on/credited to those in office TODAY.

It's a pretty thankless job to make changes now whose effects will only be felt years down the road.

If only there wasn't so much greed in the world.

The other problem is that many Americans are like children, demanding instant gratification. It is unrealistic to expect that government (or anyone else) can fix over night a problem that was 5 years or more in the making.

Shawnee123 · 10-21-2010, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam

The other problem is that many Americans are like children, demanding instant gratification. It is unrealistic to expect that government (or anyone else) can fix over night a problem that was 5 years or more in the making.

True: our entitlement mentality is certainly not limited just to those wanting handouts.

Gravdigr · 10-24-2010, 04:48 AM

Congress!? I'll tell ya what's wrong with Cong---ooh, look, a butterfly!

spudcon · 10-24-2010, 02:45 PM

Who cares what the party, or if it's bipartisan. If they bankrupt us, they're evil bastards.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-31-2010, 01:11 AM

Speaking of evil bastards...

Pico and ME · 10-31-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Speaking of evil bastards...

I am going to be voting with my dollars. Or lack thereof in McDonald's case.

Sundae · 10-31-2010, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

I wonder if some of the enmity here is a reflection of the US political system as a whole - politicians call each other every name in the book, no real dialogue occurs between parties and factions.

As this is an international forum I can't honestly see how it can be a reflection of the US political system.

smoothmoniker · 10-31-2010, 07:11 PM

Rhetoric much?

It wasn't "McDonalds" telling workers what to do, it wasn't a "a multinational corporation like McDonalds threatening it's employees". Those are the grab lines that make for feel-good moral indignation.

It was one franchise owner doing something illegal, which the "evil multinational corporation" immediately disavowed.

Sundae · 11-01-2010, 01:38 PM

Yebbut...
McDonalds is known worldwide for its heavy-handedness.
I agree with what you've said, but I'd have read the article with far more initial scepticism had it been Ben & Jerry's (for example).

classicman · 11-01-2010, 04:01 PM

Thanks for the reality-check, smooth.

classicman · 11-17-2010, 02:52 PM

Excellent blog read...

6 Political Talking Points that Need to Die

View Poll Results: What do you think about the effectiveness of Congress
Congress has gone over to the dark side and reform is hopeless	7	24.14%
Congress was always corrupt, but the US will survive just like always	10	34.48%
Government can be fixed if enough voters demand a change.	12	41.38%
I see nothing wrong with the current status quo.	1	3.45%
Oh! Look over there. I see something shiney!	10	34.48%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

10-21-2010, 09:16 AM	#1
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I hate that term: Big Government. What does it really mean? Under one party we have less governing entities? HUH? We live in a BIG country, with BIG corporations and BIG amounts of peoples and BIG states and BIG monies... More rhetoric. As MTP says: working for government small enough to fit inside your bedroom. When you say BIG GOVERNMENT and TAXES it pisses people off, and they don't even know why. Ragers against the machine but they know nothing about the machine. Sheep. Meh meh meh. Rinse and repeat. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-21-2010, 09:20 AM	#2
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Big Government means expanding and growing government and reaching past the edicts of their elected office beyond the powers given to them in our Constitution. More people understand it as they discuss it and read about it. I don't like it either, which is why I am against it. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-21-2010, 10:45 AM	#3
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	I think most people have short memories when it comes to politics. Everything that is right/wrong TODAY gets blamed on/credited to those in office TODAY. It's a pretty thankless job to make changes now whose effects will only be felt years down the road. If only there wasn't so much greed in the world. __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

10-24-2010, 04:48 AM	#6
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Congress!? I'll tell ya what's wrong with Cong---ooh, look, a butterfly! __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

10-24-2010, 02:45 PM	#7
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	Who cares what the party, or if it's bipartisan. If they bankrupt us, they're evil bastards. __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

10-31-2010, 01:11 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Speaking of evil bastards... Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-31-2010, 07:11 PM	#11
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	Rhetoric much? It wasn't "McDonalds" telling workers what to do, it wasn't a "a multinational corporation like McDonalds threatening it's employees". Those are the grab lines that make for feel-good moral indignation. It was one franchise owner doing something illegal, which the "evil multinational corporation" immediately disavowed. __________________ to live and die in LA

11-01-2010, 01:38 PM	#12
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Yebbut... McDonalds is known worldwide for its heavy-handedness. I agree with what you've said, but I'd have read the article with far more initial scepticism had it been Ben & Jerry's (for example).

11-01-2010, 04:01 PM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Thanks for the reality-check, smooth. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-17-2010, 02:52 PM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Excellent blog read... 6 Political Talking Points that Need to Die __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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