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Old 01-18-2011, 06:41 PM   #1
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I think it's NICE and I take solace in the fact that no one escapes death regardless of welath, social status, whatever. World-wide death rate holding steady at 100%!
...and isnt it nice that some people can afford to hold off death longer than others.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:07 PM   #2
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...and isnt it nice that some people can afford to hold off death longer than others.
I shift my gaze to geologic time frames and we all go together in the blink of an eye.
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:22 PM   #3
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Is someone still promoting the urban legend that Dick Cheney has a heart?
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:37 PM   #4
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Isn't it NICE Chaney didn't require a heart transplant... just a small bag of Wyoming dirt.
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:28 PM   #5
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It's nice that this thread proves that Class Warfare has not died, even for a minute.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:52 PM   #6
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It's nice that this thread proves that Class Warfare has not died, even for a minute.
isnt' it NICE how some people have no idea that money can't buy them class? Ignorance is bliss.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:34 PM   #7
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I think it's just GREAT that a one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year.

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Old 01-19-2011, 08:56 PM   #8
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isnt' it NICE how some people have no idea that money can't buy them class? Ignorance is bliss.
Oh, I agree wholeheartedly!
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:17 PM   #9
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Do it then if you think its such a windfall.

What BS. My mom did do it, with four children. It wasn't that great, let me tell you.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:37 AM   #10
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Do it then if you think its such a windfall.

What BS. My mom did do it, with four children. It wasn't that great, let me tell you.
must... not... make... Kentucky... joke...
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Old 01-19-2011, 03:24 PM   #11
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Our system is weighted to level out economic disparities. What the numbers demonstrate is that at certain income levels, the burden of taxation versus the benefit of government assistance can produce counter-intuitive consequences.

For example, if I make $1000 "too much" a year to qualify to put my kids in pre-school, and have to pay for this expense out-of-pocket, if the market cost is $10,000, then it follows that I take home $8,000 less than a person who makes $1000 just under the income level needed to qualify. Thus a $2,000 economic disparity is magnified by a factor of four, to the effect of punishing the person who has worked harder to get just a little bit ahead.

It is simple math.

Oh, and again, I just LOVE being punished for working harder. It makes me so HAPPY that freeloading acquaintences of mine have 50 Wii games, $1000 fish tanks, TVs twice the size of mine, and the newest iPhone of course.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:50 PM   #12
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For example, if I make $1000 "too much" a year to qualify to put my kids in pre-school, and have to pay for this expense out-of-pocket, if the market cost is $10,000, then it follows that I take home $8,000 less than a person who makes $1000 just under the income level needed to qualify.
Pre-school is where you choose to spend your money.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:09 PM   #13
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For example, if I make $1000 "too much" a year to qualify to put my kids in pre-school, and have to pay for this expense out-of-pocket, if the market cost is $10,000, then it follows that I take home $8,000 less than a person who makes $1000 just under the income level needed to qualify. Thus a $2,000 economic disparity is magnified by a factor of four, to the effect of punishing the person who has worked harder to get just a little bit ahead.
Yabbut, you'll get it all back on your tax return, when your total tax liablility is negative something thousand and something. You're welcome.

I'm playing devil's advocate a bit, because I do understand the concept: remember I see kids just trying to live a good life getting nothing in the way of help, and kids popping out slightly younger kids grabbing all the money they can.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:42 PM   #14
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*snip*.... and kids popping out slightly younger kids grabbing all the money they can.
i see that so so much at the go kart track. it's sad. really though it's not just the kids. adults doing it too just to get more government cash on their checks. i do remember this: about 6 months ago a little girl, about 13 or 14 came in to ride go karts. she was about to pop. sad.

flint i know what you mean. my situation albeit a little different, i work my ass off yet i'm not eligible for food stamps? wtf? you mean to tell me that baby mama over there can drive an escalade with her 4 kids, 9 to 10 months apart in age mind you, yet i can barely afford rent and food? *sigh*. it's called "working the system." hell just today when Za and i were on our way back from the client he got a phone call from a potential shop employee. he wanted Za to pay him in cash so he could continue to get his unemployment bennies. ffs. really? he was talking to the guy in spanish but i'm pretty bilingual now due to my um. well. ya know. learn what you could to survive there and knowing what people were saying in there it was paramount that you knew when to duck.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:58 PM   #15
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Oh, and again, I just LOVE being punished for working harder. It makes me so HAPPY that freeloading acquaintences of mine have 50 Wii games, $1000 fish tanks, TVs twice the size of mine, and the newest iPhone of course.
Oh, an da new BMW....
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