Happy Tax Day!

[Radar]

So, radar, are you going to take a stand for the little guy, join the tax freedom movement, and refuse to file from now on? Let us know how it works out for you.

Actually, I already am involved in the movement. I'm working at one of the places I listed.

[Undertoad]

That's not what she was asking.

[Uryoces]

Something new in tax filing. Download each form from both State and Federal government with macros, so that information is typed in and stored directly on that form. Simply print (rather than hand write) that form. But again, another secret tax. If using free Adobe, then you cannot save the entries - only print them. Purchase the full Adobe 5.0 Reader to save your form - so that modifications can be reprinted.

Which would be resolved nicely if they created an Excel 97 form. It could be read and saved by just about anyone.

Note: Download Open Office if you need a free, 95% MS Office compatible office suite. I've been able to open most Word and Excel XP docs I come across as well. Comes in *Nix, Win32, and OSX flavors.

[Cam]

I had open office on Red Hat linux, then I switched to Slackware which doens't come with it. But I can't donwload it from the site on antying but a FTP connection. And for some god awful reason the uni decided to cut our FTP bandwith to nothing, I'm lucky to get 1kb a second out of it.

[Uryoces]

Cam, I think this would do it for you very nicely. $4.67 for source and binaries for just about any system you can think of. And friends off campus w/CD burners. Spread the love!

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Or this link: http://freewarecds.com/gnuwin.htm. $4.95

[russotto]

Forget about the flat tax. I was for it when I was a renter, but now that I own my own home _I WANT MY DEDUCTION_. I suffered through years of supporting the mortgage-interest deduction of those wealthier than I, and now I demand my right to screw those poorer in return.

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There, that ought to get me an invite to the Republican party events, then I can cause some real trouble.
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[juju]

A flat tax would just cause the government to instantly lose gobs of money. Then, in order to make up for the loss, they'd jack it up to 50% for everyone! Screw that!

Besides, how are we supposed to conquer all the Middle Eastern countries with no defense budget?

[russotto]

Originally posted by juju

Besides, how are we supposed to conquer all the Middle Eastern countries with no defense budget?

Bonds backed by future oil revenues. Bwahahahaha.

[Radar]

That's not what she was asking.

I thought it was rather clear. But just to make it abundantly clear, I'll state the obvious.

There is no law in the United States that makes income taxes mandatory. In fact income taxes are unconstitutional and according to USSC decision Marbury vs. Madison any laws that are unconstitutional are null and void.

Being a patriotic American who knows the law and his rights, I won't be filing any income tax returns ever again and I'm not paying income taxes either. I'm working for an employer that doesn't withhold any taxes and pays me in cash.

I won't go to jail and I won't pay any money. In fact I have absolutely nothing to fear from the government in this matter since I have the law on my side and they have the burden of proof on thiers.

[juju]

We can visit you in the penitentiary if you like. When you get prosecuted let us know which one you're going to and where it is, and we'll try to dispatch the nearest Cellarite to visit you every so often. It's the least we can do for a fellow poster.

[Cam]

Originally posted by Uryoces
Cam, I think this would do it for you very nicely. $4.67 for source and binaries for just about any system you can think of. And friends off campus w/CD burners. Spread the love!

Thanks Uryoces, I'll be sending off for that early this summer when I get my first paycheck, slowly weening myself from all dependence on windows, tackling printing, and figuring out how to use my modem is first priority after finals week.

[juju]

Let's see.. you're in Los Angeles. Does anybody here live near there?

[Cam]

I'll make the trek if no one does, next winter I need some excuse to get away from the cold.

[slang]

Originally posted by Radar
I won't go to jail and I won't pay any money.

While I agree totally with your position, I am fearful that the gov't will arrest people and confiscate property on a *non-law*. The non-law is enforced only through the acceptance of the "volunteering" majority.

I had the opportunity to talk with some low level organizers of the tax rebellion of the late 70's in Mi.. Some did jail time. Most were just forced through the threat of finiancial ruin to repay the back taxes, legal or not.

The object nowdays for this type of protest is to shed light on the system and to show the fallacy of it. Tens of millions of people are feeling like Thomas Anderson regarding the system. They know something is wrong but they are too busy watching TV to search for the truth. It is likely that more people will take the red pill in the future as the tax code, and the agenda of the gov't, gets more confusing.

[Cam]

I think most of the citizenship of the US hate paying taxes, and most feel at least once a year the desire to just say screw the government. But then they come to the realization that those dollars they pay to the government go toward things such as roads, law enforcement, and education.

I agree the system is bloated though, I think everyone should get a letter in the mail in January stated the amount they owe, you should have all year to pay that amount, in increments of your choice if necessary, and if you disagree with the amount your given the government must provide you with whatever calculations they did to come up with the amount for you to look over and dispute if you feel necessary.
Obviously there are tremendous problems with this idea, I'd share the rest of my ideas on taxes with you but I'm still working them out. Maybe someday I'll throw them out to be torn apart .