9/19/2004: Three-year-old campaigner cries - Page 2

Happy Monkey · 09-20-2004, 10:16 AM

Of course, it was legal to arrest her. But it was unneccesary. Why arrest, when kicking out will do? And the bigger issue is that anyone - whether disruptive or not - who does not support Bush is considered unwelcome. Therefore, the only voices of dissent that Bush ever sees are the ones who actively circumvent "security" (ie security people who are weeding out political views rather than security risks), who are the ones most likely to be disruptive. There are plenty of people who would be happy to stand in the back with a sign, without chanting or yelling, as there are at Kerry rallies, but that type of protest isn't allowed at Bush rallies.

CharlieG · 09-20-2004, 10:38 AM

Thing is, according to reports that I heard (again, see the link I mentioned) she was asked to leave (verbally) and basically told the folks NO, because she had a ticket. Under NJ law, even if you have a ticket, if you are asked to leave, you must. AFTER she refused to leave when asked is when the police moved in

Happy Monkey · 09-20-2004, 11:12 AM

That's why I said it was legal to arrest her.

CharlieG · 09-20-2004, 12:26 PM

BTW In further news - the Mercer Country Prosecutor refused (I feel rightly BTW) to press charges - ON FRIDAY (before it made the papers this weekend). Interesting, huh? As I said, I think the punishement fit the crime - she was asked to leave, she wouldn't, the police removed her. At that point, no harm, no foul

warch · 09-20-2004, 04:38 PM

I read some of the suggestions that the mean union sign ripper was perhaps the wronged family man, Phil's adult kid...Phil, Jr. (who participated last time in the media covered sign ripping at the Gore rally.) I cant tell nuthin from a digi picture. Just another similarly looking young white guy. Then someone noted that the hat the mean young guy is wearing is from Marshall U, incidently where Phil, Jr. currently goes to school...

Onward Christian soldiers.

Undertoad · 09-21-2004, 05:23 PM

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I cant tell nuthin from a digi picture. Just another similarly looking young white guy.

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Then someone noted that the hat the mean young guy is wearing is from Marshall U, incidently where Phil, Jr. currently goes to school.

I still can't tell nuthin.

Happy Monkey · 09-21-2004, 05:35 PM

There was another picture on Fark where the logo on the hat was more visible.

mmmBoy · 09-21-2004, 05:35 PM

Yeah, when those Democratic State Senators from Texas hid in New Mexico to protest the gerrymandering a few years back, TX annexed NM just in case.

I should probably learn to proofread these before I hit Post Quick Reply, eh?

lookout123 · 09-21-2004, 06:17 PM

just kidding mmmboy - if i hadn't done it, someone else would have. i heard a nasty rumor that there is a smartass in the cellar. i haven't run into him yet, but i have my eyes open.

mmmBoy · 09-21-2004, 06:31 PM

No worries lookout. I'll look out for the smartass too, but I'll stay away from mirrors.

09-20-2004, 10:16 AM	#1
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Of course, it was legal to arrest her. But it was unneccesary. Why arrest, when kicking out will do? And the bigger issue is that anyone - whether disruptive or not - who does not support Bush is considered unwelcome. Therefore, the only voices of dissent that Bush ever sees are the ones who actively circumvent "security" (ie security people who are weeding out political views rather than security risks), who are the ones most likely to be disruptive. There are plenty of people who would be happy to stand in the back with a sign, without chanting or yelling, as there are at Kerry rallies, but that type of protest isn't allowed at Bush rallies. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-20-2004, 11:12 AM	#3
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	That's why I said it was legal to arrest her. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-21-2004, 05:35 PM	#7
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	There was another picture on Fark where the logo on the hat was more visible. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-21-2004, 06:17 PM	#9
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	just kidding mmmboy - if i hadn't done it, someone else would have. i heard a nasty rumor that there is a smartass in the cellar. i haven't run into him yet, but i have my eyes open. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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09-20-2004, 10:38 AM	#2
CharlieG Hoodoo Guru Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 301	Thing is, according to reports that I heard (again, see the link I mentioned) she was asked to leave (verbally) and basically told the folks NO, because she had a ticket. Under NJ law, even if you have a ticket, if you are asked to leave, you must. AFTER she refused to leave when asked is when the police moved in

09-20-2004, 12:26 PM	#4
CharlieG Hoodoo Guru Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 301	BTW In further news - the Mercer Country Prosecutor refused (I feel rightly BTW) to press charges - ON FRIDAY (before it made the papers this weekend). Interesting, huh? As I said, I think the punishement fit the crime - she was asked to leave, she wouldn't, the police removed her. At that point, no harm, no foul

09-20-2004, 04:38 PM	#5
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	I read some of the suggestions that the mean union sign ripper was perhaps the wronged family man, Phil's adult kid...Phil, Jr. (who participated last time in the media covered sign ripping at the Gore rally.) I cant tell nuthin from a digi picture. Just another similarly looking young white guy. Then someone noted that the hat the mean young guy is wearing is from Marshall U, incidently where Phil, Jr. currently goes to school... Onward Christian soldiers.

09-21-2004, 05:35 PM	#8
mmmBoy El Queso Grande Join Date: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 54	Yeah, when those Democratic State Senators from Texas hid in New Mexico to protest the gerrymandering a few years back, TX annexed NM just in case. I should probably learn to proofread these before I hit Post Quick Reply, eh?

09-21-2004, 06:31 PM	#10
mmmBoy El Queso Grande Join Date: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 54	No worries lookout. I'll look out for the smartass too, but I'll stay away from mirrors.

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