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Old 11-03-2004, 02:47 AM   #1
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<b>Brianna</b>, I think <b>wolf</b> is just prepared to defend her home and person from those who would choose to do her harm. It is certainly a personal option to rely on the police to perform that duty. They usually just show for clean-up.

I sincerely doubt I will ever have to use my weapons defensively. I'm not that paranoid. Shooting is just something fun to do, and marksmanship (hitting a good shot at 100+ yards) is truly satisfying.
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Old 11-03-2004, 03:07 AM   #2
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Let's just say I'm ready for The Day The Welfare Checks Don't Cash and leave it at that.
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Old 11-03-2004, 03:13 AM   #3
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if this great nation of ours equipped people for real jobs we wouldn't need welfare checks--unless you were poisoned by CO, of course. Then we'd have to pay.

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i'm feeling very nasty tonight. GRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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Old 11-03-2004, 03:55 AM   #4
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if this great nation of ours equipped people for real jobs we wouldn't need welfare checks--unless you were poisoned by CO, of course.
Brianna, believe me, with all the imperfections of capitalism, you're still much better off without "the right to work"
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Old 11-03-2004, 11:56 AM   #5
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if this great nation of ours equipped people for real jobs we wouldn't need welfare checks--unless you were poisoned by CO, of course. Then we'd have to pay.

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i'm feeling very nasty tonight. GRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Well, thanks, Brianna. Nothing like kicking a dog when its down, hmmm? All the people on this board who like to jump all over me will be happy to hear that I'm pretty depressed right now. It's going to be a very grim 4 years for Americans who need help getting back on their feet or are permanently disabled. You're upset because you had to go back to work. I'm upset because I CAN'T.

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Old 11-03-2004, 12:15 PM   #6
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Well, thanks, Brianna. Nothing like kicking a dog when its down, hmmm? All the people on this board who like to jump all over me will be happy to hear that I'm pretty depressed right now. It's going to be a very grim 4 years for Americans who need help getting back on their feet or are permanently disabled. You're upset because you had to go back to work. I'm upset because I CAN'T.
No, didn't HAVE to--CHOSE to. Working is essential to an individuals sense of well-being and feeling of contributing to the greater good. I chose to go back. I was completely bored and useless sitting at home and after three months of rehab--which I also chose--I went back voluntarily. My situation is very complex and persists in the courts. My only complaint is that the hospital I work for is already pushing the limits of the agreement of my return to work. As in 12 hour shifts. THAT's where my problem is. It's going to be a grim 4 years for every American. Very grim. All those who voted bush get what they deserve. He's an arrogant, smarmy, sniveling moron. Congratulations, America! You've proven yourself UNWORTHY.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:36 PM   #7
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No, didn't HAVE to--CHOSE to. Working is essential to an individuals sense of well-being and feeling of contributing to the greater good. I chose to go back.
Tell me about it. I feel so damn useless and right now, scared.

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My situation is very complex and persists in the courts.
So is and does mine. The ability to sit alone in my room and type mis-spelled comments to a bunch of people I'll never meet does not = functional.

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My only complaint is that the hospital I work for is already pushing the limits of the agreement of my return to work. As in 12 hour shifts. THAT's where my problem is.
I know a little about your situation, Brianna, and that's just WRONG on their part. They are really pushing you to over extend yourself. Does your workplace have EAP or something similar where you could go in to get some arbitration of some sort?

I agree with you, Bush is Cheney's bitch. And Cheney is Halliburten's handmaiden. The American people figure nowhere into the equation except that through stupidity and complacense, they voted for this to go on 4 more years.
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Old 11-03-2004, 07:31 AM   #8
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Given the crushing nature of this defeat (never mind Ohio -- even if Kerry pulls off a miracle, he'll have to deal with a reinforced-on-both-sides Republican Congress and a strong popular-vote bitchslap)...

...how do I tell my wife that I don't think I want to have kids in this New, Improved, 78%-More-War-And-Bibles Redder-Than-Ever America?
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:22 AM   #9
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...how do I tell my wife that I don't think I want to have kids in this New, Improved, 78%-More-War-And-Bibles Redder-Than-Ever America?
Nothing says "Baby? No way" like a quicky vasectomy.
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:37 PM   #10
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Nothing says "Baby? No way" like a quicky vasectomy.
LOL ah yes: the golden snip. That says to me: "Honey, I love you enough to not poison you with my sperm, have you push out an 8,9,10+ pound being from between your legs and try to raise and LIE to that being about the fucked up world we live in."

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Old 11-03-2004, 07:34 AM   #11
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Pop her in the mouth and say, "Bitch, we ain't havin' no babies!"

I don't know if you were being rhetorical or not...if not, just be honest. What are her feelings on the outcome?
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Old 11-03-2004, 07:40 AM   #12
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I'm in a deep post-election depression, but I'm at least half-serious, and how the next few years fall out will either reinforce that or lessen that. I can at least wait and see before I revise my decision -- it's not like I'm going to chop off my nuts and mail them to Dubya or anything.

She's nowhere near as politically-minded as I am.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:35 AM   #13
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Smart woman. Is she online?

More laws are made that affect the individual at state level, than at federal level. Massachusetts, where the R party is nearly a minor party, is only 5 hours north. Canada, the Europe of North America, is only another 4 hours after that. So if you really honestly believe that it will make a difference in your life, you can have the politics you want. It'll take some effort, but there it is.

Or if you realize at the end of the day that you will wind up putting your socks on first every morning, just like you have all along, you'll stay where you are and pop out a few youngsters. After all, by the time they're teenagers, you may decide that you were wrong all along.

I know I have; the politics I cared so hard about 10 years ago are not the same as what I think today.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:27 AM   #14
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She's online, but not into message boards -- SoulSeek and eBay are more her speed. Smart woman, indeed, as she understands the first law of message-board arguments (the famed Special Olympics analogy).

The Republicans have been given firm control over the nation. The Senate is all but filibuster-proof. The golden opportunity to replace Rehnquist is gone; instead, he and others will be replaced during this term by young, rubber-stamp conservatives who will redefine American law (federal, state and local) for generations.

Short of a scandal that makes Watergate look like a tea party, the Democratic Party is essentially toast. I expect more redistricting shenanigans designed to reinforce the Republican majority. Why not? DeLay's gambit worked exactly as intended. I expect Social Security, the deficit and the tax code to be a shambles by 2008, and frankly, I don't see any stars rising up out of the Democratic camp capable of rallying the troops.

It's the last definition of Catch-22: "They can do anything that we can't stop them from doing." Well, the left can't stop the right from doing whatever it wants now. Moving to Boston won't fix that.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:53 AM   #15
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On the other hand, all problems from here on out are 100% the Republicans' fault, and I don't see things getting better. We'll see whether things will get bad enough that even Republicans can see it by 2006.
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