Men Abortion and Choice - Page 20

Shawnee123 · 08-16-2007, 01:48 PM

Recent studies suggest that men who don't get breastfed as babies do not develop the overwhelming fascination with boobies and therefore do not use them to objectify women, thus ending the need for mass subjugation of women.[/ smartass comment]

Yikes, I read back to about pg 13 and thought I might puke.

Keep your laws off my body.

Pie · 08-16-2007, 02:15 PM

So, rk, as a diabetic married woman, for whom pregnancy would be a major health catastrophe, I can never have sex with my husband since no birth control is 100% effective?

Is that "morality" in your book?

Cicero · 08-16-2007, 02:29 PM

Breast-feeding is a really bad example of what I'm getting at. *sorry*
My only point- to what extent do we get to control the baby factory in this scenario?
Do we get to control it's lifestyle and food intake until we have reached our subjective idea about what's best for the fetus in our custody?

I keep thinking of this guy threatening to sue if it eats another bon-bon.
And
Do we get to charge it with attempted murder if it falls down a staircase?

Sorry about all the "it's" but that is the proper language for the subject at hand. Kind of like "buffalo bill" from "silence of the lambs".
"it will have the baby for me and put the lotion on it's skin"..........

jinx · 08-16-2007, 03:11 PM

Yeah, breastfeeding misinformation really bugs the shit out me, but I won't derail the thread... Although it seems fairly played since rk won't answer HM's question.

08-16-2007, 04:59 PM

All that would take some time to work out.
As far as notification, I would hope the mother would have a modicum of honor. But then, if that were true, there would be no need for a law.

lumberjim · 08-16-2007, 05:03 PM

there it is. there is no need for this law. you have it now!

08-16-2007, 05:04 PM

As long as all women honor the fathers as equals, true.
As always LJ can't read.

Happy Monkey · 08-16-2007, 05:05 PM

Sometimes the woman shouldn't have to tell him - rape, for example. Would she have to get a waiver from a judge in order to get an abortion without the rapist's consent? What if it were one of the many rapes (often date rape) where there is not enough evidence to convict? As he is innocent until proven guilty, can he still veto her abortion decision?

08-16-2007, 05:07 PM

I would hope that is a given.

Happy Monkey · 08-16-2007, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I would hope that is a given.

You would hope that it's a given that a date rapist could force his victim to give birth to his kid?

lumberjim · 08-16-2007, 05:10 PM

butthole

Flint · 08-16-2007, 05:15 PM

I think all abortions should be decided by a roving gang of machete-wielding psychopaths.
If they don't hack you to pieces, you are legally required to have a baby. Case closed.

08-16-2007, 05:23 PM

I find it fascinating and pathetic how many in here do not believe in innocent until proven guilty AT ALL.

Flint · 08-16-2007, 05:24 PM

Innocent until proven guilty is a moot point, if the investigation exceeds the timeframe in which an abortion is possible. Another problem.

08-16-2007, 05:35 PM

Again, I have not pretended to state that I have worked out all legal ramifications and have stated multiple times that the woman should have personal honor so the law does not get involved.
As always, total lack of reading comprehension.

Quote:

butthole

From LJ, a high compliment.

08-16-2007, 01:48 PM	#1
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Recent studies suggest that men who don't get breastfed as babies do not develop the overwhelming fascination with boobies and therefore do not use them to objectify women, thus ending the need for mass subjugation of women.[/ smartass comment] Yikes, I read back to about pg 13 and thought I might puke. Keep your laws off my body. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

08-16-2007, 02:15 PM	#2
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	So, rk, as a diabetic married woman, for whom pregnancy would be a major health catastrophe, I can never have sex with my husband since no birth control is 100% effective? Is that "morality" in your book? __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

08-16-2007, 02:29 PM	#3
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	Breast-feeding is a really bad example of what I'm getting at. sorry My only point- to what extent do we get to control the baby factory in this scenario? Do we get to control it's lifestyle and food intake until we have reached our subjective idea about what's best for the fetus in our custody? I keep thinking of this guy threatening to sue if it eats another bon-bon. And Do we get to charge it with attempted murder if it falls down a staircase? Sorry about all the "it's" but that is the proper language for the subject at hand. Kind of like "buffalo bill" from "silence of the lambs". "it will have the baby for me and put the lotion on it's skin".......... __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

08-16-2007, 03:11 PM	#4
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Yeah, breastfeeding misinformation really bugs the shit out me, but I won't derail the thread... Although it seems fairly played since rk won't answer HM's question. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

08-16-2007, 05:03 PM	#6
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	there it is. there is no need for this law. you have it now! __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

08-16-2007, 04:59 PM	#5
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	All that would take some time to work out. As far as notification, I would hope the mother would have a modicum of honor. But then, if that were true, there would be no need for a law.

08-16-2007, 05:04 PM	#7
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	As long as all women honor the fathers as equals, true. As always LJ can't read.

08-16-2007, 05:05 PM	#8
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Sometimes the woman shouldn't have to tell him - rape, for example. Would she have to get a waiver from a judge in order to get an abortion without the rapist's consent? What if it were one of the many rapes (often date rape) where there is not enough evidence to convict? As he is innocent until proven guilty, can he still veto her abortion decision? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-16-2007, 05:07 PM	#9
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I would hope that is a given.

08-16-2007, 05:10 PM	#11
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	butthole __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

08-16-2007, 05:15 PM	#12
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I think all abortions should be decided by a roving gang of machete-wielding psychopaths. If they don't hack you to pieces, you are legally required to have a baby. Case closed. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-16-2007, 05:23 PM	#13
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I find it fascinating and pathetic how many in here do not believe in innocent until proven guilty AT ALL.

08-16-2007, 05:24 PM	#14
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Innocent until proven guilty is a moot point, if the investigation exceeds the timeframe in which an abortion is possible. Another problem. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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