Rush Limbaugh STILL is a big, fat idiot

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by Flint

ha ha ha

The biggest shift is the drop in "conservative-identified" Democrats, and the almost perfectly-corresponding rise in "liberal-identified" Democrats... You can almost see the boogey-man-ification of the words "liberal" and "conservative" right there in the data . . .

Can't be much boogyman factor to "liberal" amongst the "progressives" then.

[Shawnee123]

Anyone with half a semester of college prob & stats know you can skew data in clever enough ways as to go unnoticed and say what you want.

Data schmata. Rush is still an idiot, blowhard, pompous, self-serving...etc and so on.

[Happy Monkey]

The boogey-man-ification of "liberal" had already happened, that chart shows the de-boogey-man-ification as the conservatives displayed their incompetance.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

The boogey-man-ification of "liberal" had already happened, that chart shows the de-boogey-man-ification as the conservatives displayed their incompetance.

Technically, wouldn't the perceived (I'm not debating this either way) incompetence be attahced to the actual ruling party, not so much an ideology?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Flint

Technically, wouldn't the perceived (I'm not debating this either way) incompetence be attahced to the actual ruling party, not so much an ideology?

Well, we're talking public opinion here, and the ruling party at least claims to be implementing "conservative" policy. I suppose it's like religion, and some would say that they aren't "real" conservatives.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Can't be much boogyman factor to "liberal" amongst the "progressives" then.

I don't know, do you have another chart for progressives?

[morethanpretty]

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

Maybe they should ask Rush's ex-wives to see how good he is at recognizing when someone is "faking it".

Maybe he should just follow Howard Stern's example. 8th letter down

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

After watching Michael J. Fox's comercial promoting stem cell research, for which he deliberately did not take his Parkinson's meds so as to show the effects of the disease,

If he did that for the purpose of a commerical, that's pretty foolish, IMHO. The meds don't give gains to the patient, but they can slow down the inevitable progress of the disease. Going off the meds can cause irreversible damage.

Great way to prove a point.

What little I have heard about stem cell research indicate that fetal stem cell research hasn't shown any success, but that adult stem cell research has.

[Sheldonrs]

Originally Posted by wolf

If he did that for the purpose of a commerical, that's pretty foolish, IMHO. The meds don't give gains to the patient, but they can slow down the inevitable progress of the disease. Going off the meds can cause irreversible damage.

Great way to prove a point.

What little I have heard about stem cell research indicate that fetal stem cell research hasn't shown any success, but that adult stem cell research has.

Maybe he thought it was worth the risk to make his point.
And maybe there has been fewer gains with stem cells because they haven't had as much freedom to use them yet.
IMO, if you can get 1 inch of gain from cells that nobody is going to use anyway, do it. Don't say it's ok to send grown men and women to die for nothing when it's not ok to use some throw-away cells.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by wolf

Great way to prove a point.

Damn those point-making liberals and their degenerative neurological diseases.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by wolf

Great way to prove a point.

Yes, it sure is. If he went off his meds to make the point, then he is making a real sacrifice in hopes of helping people in the future.

What little I have heard about stem cell research indicate that fetal stem cell research hasn't shown any success, but that adult stem cell research has.

So if it will never work, you don't have to worry about blastocysts being made for the purpose of medical treatment. But if it will work, then that argument is meaningless. Either way, the argument is worthless.

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Yes, it sure is. If he went off his meds to make the point, then he is making a real sacrifice in hopes of helping people in the future.

Or to leverage his condition for maximum propiganda effect. Even during sworn testimony before Congress...

Originally Posted by Michael J. Fox, in his book “Lucky Man”, 2002.

I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease and the urgency we as a community were feeling be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.

[tw]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Or to leverage his condition for maximum propiganda effect. Even during sworn testimony before Congress...

Amazing how MaggieL will argue to completely miss the fact. Rush Limbaugh lied. Rush Limbaugh knows about lying. He created a lie about Michael Fox knowing full well that it was only invented. Rush Limbaugh used speculation as a fact - as only political extremist would do.

MaggieL would have us argue over MaggieL speculations so that we ignore a bottom line fact: Rush Limbaugh stated - as fact - what was only speculation - personal bias.

What kind of speculation was it? It was based in a political agenda. A feeling is spun into fact. Classic 'big dic' thinking. And MaggieL endorses it. That goes to credibility, MaggieL.

Bottom line fact: Rush Limbaugh stated as fact what was only classic 'big dic' speculation. He felt something big in his pants; therefore it must be a fact. MaggieL hopes you forget the reality. Rush lied. Rush lied intentionally for a political agenda.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

Or to leverage his condition for maximum propiganda effect. Even during sworn testimony before Congress...

What possible point could you be trying to make there? He went off the meds to make his point. He is wealthy enough to get the meds without problem. Not everybody is. There is no deceit there. The meds delay the inevitable. He will, even with the meds, eventually be that bad, and die. He sacrificed the benefit of the drugs, and probably some of his life, to make a serious point because his fame gives him a forum that is not available to most people in his situation.

[Flint]

Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot is such a "nice" book title, after all...