Letters from Baghdad - Page 3

piercehawkeye45 · 07-18-2007, 08:43 AM

I agree walking away would be devastating and I really do help things go for the best for the Iraqis and everyone else in Middle East and the world but the question is practicality. We have just found out that we do not have unlimited power and can not do everything we want the hard way so we can not ask what should we do but what can we do.

As long as the Iraqi nationalists are on our side (other groups are waiting the results of 1920) we should stay but if things do go wrong, which is a good chance since there are many tensions between them and the Iraqi police, we need to ask what is practical.

If 1920 does fail, I am not totally convinced that by us staying there will solve anything, but just prolong the inevitable.

TheMercenary · 07-18-2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I agree walking away would be devastating and I really do help things go for the best for the Iraqis and everyone else in Middle East and the world but the question is practicality. We have just found out that we do not have unlimited power and can not do everything we want the hard way so we can not ask what should we do but what can we do.

As long as the Iraqi nationalists are on our side (other groups are waiting the results of 1920) we should stay but if things do go wrong, which is a good chance since there are many tensions between them and the Iraqi police, we need to ask what is practical.

If 1920 does fail, I am not totally convinced that by us staying there will solve anything, but just prolong the inevitable.

I suspect we will be there in some capacity for many years to come, in force or otherwise.

yesman065 · 07-18-2007, 10:07 AM

We know we'll be there in some form for years to come no one denies that - dem or reaper-publican - thats a freakin' given. The question is - In what capacity?

yesman065 · 07-27-2007, 02:26 PM

Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 6:12 am
Subject: The wild wild West of Baghdad is getting stranger as the week goes on!

Well summer is in full swing here in the Wild Wild West of Baghdad. We
are having temperatures getting above 120 degrees each day. It will be
like that for the next 6 weeks HOT! We made the news again yesterday
and it was not a good thing. Well first off I was coming back from
dinner last night @ 6 pm Baghdad time, I was back in the palace and
than POW! ...Off went a huge VBIED, (Vehicle Bourne Independent
Explosive Device, a truck loaded with TNT/C4 suicide attack), it was
outside the wall of the complex. It was very powerful for you could feel
it inside the building and it blew out a window. I was almost knocked to
the ground by this woman running out of her office and diving down in
the hallway. It looks like the "neighbors" are getting bolder or more
desperate for they are now getting closer to the "International Zone,
IZ" here. We just got rid of the "Baghdad Rocket Man" and now it seems
the suicide bombers are now moving/focusing in on this area. The VBIED
ended up killing 50 people and wounding 49 all local Iraqi's. This type
of attack was also done a day earlier when the Iraqi soccer team won its
game and the fans came out into the street and one of those VBIED also
showed up and did the same type of damage to the fans

Earlier in the day a group in the Iraqi parliament announced that they
were leaving and not going to participate for a while. Well there are
all of these "benchmarks" that are to be meet by September, per
president Bush, and we are here to help them meet the benchmarks and
now they leave. It is a different world the way the process flows here
in Baghdad.

Later on this week the Iraqi soccer team plays Saudi Arabia in the final
of the Asia soccer cup final. We got to be ready again for all of the
celebratory fire and of course got to keep watching for these VBIED's.
Well there is only so much I can do, so I think I will do something
practical and that I have full control over. I am heading back to my
hooch this afternoon and do my laundry! I know it is Friday back in
America so after work everybody should just relax stop off and have a
cold one and don't let the traffic get to you, you'll make it home OK.!

CDR "Downtown Baghdad"

yesman065 · 07-27-2007, 03:28 PM

Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:01:19 +0400
Subject: A view of the home stead in down town Baghdad

I was able to get a picture of the palace that I work in during the day
and into the night, (work hours here are 07;00 AM till 09:00PM
Monday-Monday, 7 days a week), this was taken before the invasions. We
have walls up along the river, but as you can see, across the river is
where the "neighbors" live. The neighbors are not all that friendly and
I don't think you want to have them swim over and stop by for a cook
out. The "Baghdad Rocket Man" and his crew are some where in there and
he lets us know it...well, I mean he did...the U.S. Army found
him.....he has a different home now.

yesman065 · 07-28-2007, 08:48 PM

I finally got a chance to reduce and post this pic

xoxoxoBruce · 07-29-2007, 04:05 AM

The question that comes to mind is, how does the "rocket man" fire a bunch of rockets, on multiple occasions, from a location in an obviously crowded neighborhood, without 500 people knowing who he is and what he's doing?

The obvious answer is they knew, and at least, didn't care, if they weren't cheering him on.

DanaC · 07-29-2007, 07:24 AM

Quote:

The obvious answer is they knew, and at least, didn't care, if they weren't cheering him on.

Or, are reluctant to involve themselves in something that may or may not get them and their families killed.

Undertoad · 07-29-2007, 08:02 AM

From a Yon entry, the US Mil can tell pretty much exactly where a rocket has been fired from, once it's been fired.

yesman065 · 07-29-2007, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

From a Yon entry, the US Mil can tell pretty much exactly where a rocket has been fired from, once it's been fired.

He moves, well he used to move.
There were more than one - he had a "crew"

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDR "Downtown Baghdad"

The "Baghdad Rocket Man" and his crew are some where in there and
he lets us know it...well, I mean he did...the U.S. Army found him.....
he has a different home now. .

yesman065 · 07-29-2007, 10:54 PM

I have no idea - I don't get any answers - All I get are his emails - I don't think he gets mine or at best they are censored - now that I think about it - I don't think he has directly answered of the questions I ask.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-29-2007, 10:56 PM

That's OK, man. We know you're just sharing news from the front and it's much appreciated. Thank you.

yesman065 · 07-29-2007, 11:16 PM

Your welcome, But you really got me thinking now - In fact, I'm rereading the emails I sent him and his responses to see if he directly answered any of my questions. Now I'm also pondering #40 for an answer. . .

well at least I'm multitasking :shrug

xoxoxoBruce · 07-30-2007, 03:17 PM

Ah, but #40 was directed at Usup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Usup

snip~These terrorists called themselves Muslims and claimed that what they did was for Allah. But their connection to Islam is about as true and strong as Timothy McVeigh’s connection to Christianity. What they did is so contrary to the holy teachings of the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) that to say their name in the same breath as Islam is considered sacrilege.~snip

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce

And how about the hundreds of people that knew who "rocket man' was and what he was doing.... can they "say their name in the same breath as Islam"?

Usup · 07-30-2007, 07:27 PM

Everyone has free will.... That doesn't make it right.

07-28-2007, 08:48 PM	#6
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	I finally got a chance to reduce and post this pic Attached Images

07-29-2007, 04:05 AM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The question that comes to mind is, how does the "rocket man" fire a bunch of rockets, on multiple occasions, from a location in an obviously crowded neighborhood, without 500 people knowing who he is and what he's doing? The obvious answer is they knew, and at least, didn't care, if they weren't cheering him on. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-29-2007, 10:56 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's OK, man. We know you're just sharing news from the front and it's much appreciated. Thank you. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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07-18-2007, 08:43 AM	#1
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	I agree walking away would be devastating and I really do help things go for the best for the Iraqis and everyone else in Middle East and the world but the question is practicality. We have just found out that we do not have unlimited power and can not do everything we want the hard way so we can not ask what should we do but what can we do. As long as the Iraqi nationalists are on our side (other groups are waiting the results of 1920) we should stay but if things do go wrong, which is a good chance since there are many tensions between them and the Iraqi police, we need to ask what is practical. If 1920 does fail, I am not totally convinced that by us staying there will solve anything, but just prolong the inevitable.

07-18-2007, 10:07 AM	#3
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	We know we'll be there in some form for years to come no one denies that - dem or reaper-publican - thats a freakin' given. The question is - In what capacity?

07-27-2007, 02:26 PM	#4
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Sent: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 6:12 am Subject: The wild wild West of Baghdad is getting stranger as the week goes on! Well summer is in full swing here in the Wild Wild West of Baghdad. We are having temperatures getting above 120 degrees each day. It will be like that for the next 6 weeks HOT! We made the news again yesterday and it was not a good thing. Well first off I was coming back from dinner last night @ 6 pm Baghdad time, I was back in the palace and than POW! ...Off went a huge VBIED, (Vehicle Bourne Independent Explosive Device, a truck loaded with TNT/C4 suicide attack), it was outside the wall of the complex. It was very powerful for you could feel it inside the building and it blew out a window. I was almost knocked to the ground by this woman running out of her office and diving down in the hallway. It looks like the "neighbors" are getting bolder or more desperate for they are now getting closer to the "International Zone, IZ" here. We just got rid of the "Baghdad Rocket Man" and now it seems the suicide bombers are now moving/focusing in on this area. The VBIED ended up killing 50 people and wounding 49 all local Iraqi's. This type of attack was also done a day earlier when the Iraqi soccer team won its game and the fans came out into the street and one of those VBIED also showed up and did the same type of damage to the fans Earlier in the day a group in the Iraqi parliament announced that they were leaving and not going to participate for a while. Well there are all of these "benchmarks" that are to be meet by September, per president Bush, and we are here to help them meet the benchmarks and now they leave. It is a different world the way the process flows here in Baghdad. Later on this week the Iraqi soccer team plays Saudi Arabia in the final of the Asia soccer cup final. We got to be ready again for all of the celebratory fire and of course got to keep watching for these VBIED's. Well there is only so much I can do, so I think I will do something practical and that I have full control over. I am heading back to my hooch this afternoon and do my laundry! I know it is Friday back in America so after work everybody should just relax stop off and have a cold one and don't let the traffic get to you, you'll make it home OK.! CDR "Downtown Baghdad" Last edited by yesman065; 07-27-2007 at 03:30 PM.

07-27-2007, 03:28 PM	#5
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:01:19 +0400 Subject: A view of the home stead in down town Baghdad I was able to get a picture of the palace that I work in during the day and into the night, (work hours here are 07;00 AM till 09:00PM Monday-Monday, 7 days a week), this was taken before the invasions. We have walls up along the river, but as you can see, across the river is where the "neighbors" live. The neighbors are not all that friendly and I don't think you want to have them swim over and stop by for a cook out. The "Baghdad Rocket Man" and his crew are some where in there and he lets us know it...well, I mean he did...the U.S. Army found him.....he has a different home now.

07-29-2007, 08:02 AM	#9
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	From a Yon entry, the US Mil can tell pretty much exactly where a rocket has been fired from, once it's been fired.

07-29-2007, 10:54 PM	#11
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	I have no idea - I don't get any answers - All I get are his emails - I don't think he gets mine or at best they are censored - now that I think about it - I don't think he has directly answered of the questions I ask.

07-29-2007, 11:16 PM	#13
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Your welcome, But you really got me thinking now - In fact, I'm rereading the emails I sent him and his responses to see if he directly answered any of my questions. Now I'm also pondering #40 for an answer. . . well at least I'm multitasking :shrug

07-30-2007, 07:27 PM	#15
Usup There is only one Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16	Everyone has free will.... That doesn't make it right.

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