Roadside Memorials, Utah fight - Page 3

Kitsune · 11-27-2007, 09:49 AM

11-27-2007, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

Why can't they be religious? Over 85% of this country believes in some form of religion. Just because it offends you is a rediculous argument. Only those lacking in faith do not "believe" in something. I understand I may be in the minority here on this topic, but I still get my say, - do I not?
Actually I just said it, so I guess I do.

Link to statistic - http://www.thearda.com/quickstats/qs_28.asp

True, as long as they are not on public land, I have no issue with it.
But, on public land, no breech of separation of church and state.
It protects the religious as well as the state... many ignorant cannot see that.
Those fighting for the separation of Church and state the hardest, and always have, are religious leaders because they know this, like the AU and those opposed to changing the national motto the the current stupidity and adding superstition to our money. All who lead the fight were religious leaders.
It is a founding principle of this nation and needs to be kept, and returned to where needed, in all sectors.
If someone is religious not having the state "validate" it does nothing against them in any way.

11-26-2007, 04:07 PM

There was no emotion, in any way, in my post.
You are incorrect as usual.
Edit:
I do care about the health of my nation and those who wish to degrade the rules and laws of this nation that make it great only make me wish to enforce that which disables them from doing so.
The more the separation of Church and state degrades and those in power feel that superstition belongs in the public square the worse off this nation is... we went to war with a nation that was not a threat in ANY WAY and we had no business doing so, illegally, because god told our idiot of a president to do it.
He is delusional and should have been impeached on that alone. Hearing voices is a clear indication of insanity and he should have been treated as such.
Placing giant crosses on public land is a clear breech of church and state and that people think that there is something wrong and disrespectful for saying so is ridiculous.
It is simply not the place.
As I stated, buy a billboard, a commercial or, better yet, have your memorial service and cemetery plot like everyone else.
What is your issue with these statements?
You are the one who follows me through the board and cannot stay on topic, cannot directly answer simple questions about the issue.
But, instead, just wants to try to insult me, feebly... which is funny, don't get me wrong, you are a joke and I get it, but not one that is about the topics.
Don't like the thread, directly refute them or stay out.
Got a problem with me personally, post in LJ's whine thread, start your own or PM me like someone with a brain who can discern the place and time for your behavior.
I used to want you to stop stalking me, but now it just gets more pathetic, sadder and funnier as you do it instead of actually posting something worthwhile, starting real threads, doing anything other than amuse me.
Keep dancing clown.

lookout123 · 11-26-2007, 04:11 PM

and as usual you have resorted to being a weak imitation of TW.

11-26-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

and as usual you have resorted to being a weak imitation of TW.

What meaningless drivel.

Flint · 11-26-2007, 04:34 PM

Anyone with half a brain can see that this thread is not worth responding to, because you are such a dimwit, and only a drooling imbicile would post here in this thread, because you obviously can't read.

What we need here is some separation of head from ass, or separation of foot from mouth, or else we're going to need some separation of foot from ass. Eventually we might become confused and engage in some ass-to-mouth. That's what happens when you can't read.

11-26-2007, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

Anyone with half a brain can see that this thread is not worth responding to...

Yet you did... dance clown dance!

Kitsune · 11-26-2007, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I applaud and support any community that outlaws roadside memorials for ANY reason.
They are pollution.

The state puts these up, the applicant pays for them. No one seems to mind.

11-26-2007, 04:20 PM

Not a breach, still litter.

Kitsune · 11-26-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Not a breach, still litter.

DOT constructed, approved, and installed signs are litter? How so? I thought they were a safe, reasonable alternative to the dangerous memorials constructed out of heavy lumber that don't break away when you hit them at 60mph. They're also removed after a certain duration so they don't become lasting eyesores along the roads.

A curious note on these: not everyone qualifies. If the driver died in a wreck while DUI, they're not eligible.

Cloud · 11-26-2007, 04:37 PM

hey, don't knock ass to mouth if you've never tried it!

Sundae · 11-26-2007, 04:49 PM

No, I totally respect those signs - they are tidy and they have a limited lifespan. And let's face it, if you passed more than one of those on a stretch of road I think it really would make you think. They are as much for road safety as as memorial - I especially appreciate that there are conditions like not due to DUI.

Kitsune · 11-26-2007, 05:00 PM

This thread needs a sign that is both litter and a breach...by a litter clean up group.

11-26-2007, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune

This thread needs a sign that is both litter and a breach...by a litter clean up group.

In no way is that a breach or litter. Any group can adopt a section of highway, they are on equal footing with all other groups and it does not display any religious symbology.

lookout123 · 11-26-2007, 06:49 PM

are you really this fucking obtuse?

11-26-2007, 04:07 PM	#3
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	There was no emotion, in any way, in my post. You are incorrect as usual. Edit: I do care about the health of my nation and those who wish to degrade the rules and laws of this nation that make it great only make me wish to enforce that which disables them from doing so. The more the separation of Church and state degrades and those in power feel that superstition belongs in the public square the worse off this nation is... we went to war with a nation that was not a threat in ANY WAY and we had no business doing so, illegally, because god told our idiot of a president to do it. He is delusional and should have been impeached on that alone. Hearing voices is a clear indication of insanity and he should have been treated as such. Placing giant crosses on public land is a clear breech of church and state and that people think that there is something wrong and disrespectful for saying so is ridiculous. It is simply not the place. As I stated, buy a billboard, a commercial or, better yet, have your memorial service and cemetery plot like everyone else. What is your issue with these statements? You are the one who follows me through the board and cannot stay on topic, cannot directly answer simple questions about the issue. But, instead, just wants to try to insult me, feebly... which is funny, don't get me wrong, you are a joke and I get it, but not one that is about the topics. Don't like the thread, directly refute them or stay out. Got a problem with me personally, post in LJ's whine thread, start your own or PM me like someone with a brain who can discern the place and time for your behavior. I used to want you to stop stalking me, but now it just gets more pathetic, sadder and funnier as you do it instead of actually posting something worthwhile, starting real threads, doing anything other than amuse me. Keep dancing clown. Last edited by rkzenrage; 11-26-2007 at 04:18 PM.

11-26-2007, 04:11 PM	#4
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11-26-2007, 04:34 PM	#6
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Anyone with half a brain can see that this thread is not worth responding to, because you are such a dimwit, and only a drooling imbicile would post here in this thread, because you obviously can't read. What we need here is some separation of head from ass, or separation of foot from mouth, or else we're going to need some separation of foot from ass. Eventually we might become confused and engage in some ass-to-mouth. That's what happens when you can't read. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-26-2007, 04:37 PM	#11
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11-26-2007, 04:49 PM	#12
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	No, I totally respect those signs - they are tidy and they have a limited lifespan. And let's face it, if you passed more than one of those on a stretch of road I think it really would make you think. They are as much for road safety as as memorial - I especially appreciate that there are conditions like not due to DUI. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-27-2007, 09:49 AM	#1
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11-26-2007, 04:20 PM	#9
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Not a breach, still litter.

11-26-2007, 05:00 PM	#13
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	This thread needs a sign that is both litter and a breach...by a litter clean up group. Attached Images

11-26-2007, 06:49 PM	#15
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	are you really this fucking obtuse? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

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