Brit doctors: don't treat people who make bad choices or get old

[DanaC]

It is different from the insurance system. No British citizen is without health insurance.

[binky]

Cigna really does suck. I had a pinched nerve in my neck, and they refused to pay for PT for me, so my doctor hands me a one page handout of exercises (which I did), and basically says, rehab yourself. So what if it took two years before I could raise my right arm past my shoulder?

[DanaC]

That sucks. My ex injured his shoulder about ten years ago, leaving him temporarily partially paralysed in his right arm. He went to his GP who referred him to a physiotherapy unit which he visited twice a week for six weeks and then twice a month for three months. Throughout that time he was provided with prescription pain killers at no cost as he was unemployed at the time. The original injury involved a trip to casualty (ambulance job with air and gas to ease the pain) which also incurred no charge.

[binky]

And THATS why the US needs national health care (not to mention that we have no healthcare at the moment becuase my husband just started a new job)

[BigV]

I'm right handed. I hold my fork in my left hand the tines curved downward, and my knife in my right hand. If I'm cutting a bite of steak, for example, I stab the steak (that sounds weird...) with the fork near the left edge of the steak, and then cut that piece free with the knife. Now, in one motion I've managed to get a bite of steak onto my fork. I don't understand why someone would switch utensils/hands between the cutting and eating motions.

[Shawnee123]

That is the European, or Continental, way of using utensils. I don't know why there are basically two styles of using utensils.

[bbro]

My mother always taught us to use the dominant hand to cut, the other hand to hold the fork. When the piece is cut, the knife gets put down and the fork gets switched. At no time are you to have a knife in your hand except for cutting/spreading. Also, cutting you meat all at one time is not a good thing.

This is because when she went to boarding school, this was the proper manners she was taught.

Why is this in the doctor thread??

[ZenGum]

Originally Posted by bbro

Why is this in the doctor thread??

Hold the scalpel in your right hand, the forceps in your left.

Better?

[Shawnee123]

If she had been to boarding school in Europe she would have been taught differently.

How do I use the knife and fork? I like to hold the fork in my right, dominant hand and jam the fork in the eye, to hold the person steady, then in a jabbing left-handed upward motion, slice into the stomach area and cut a jagged edge up to the sternum. Then I will switch the fork to the other hand, put the knife down, and continue jabbing about the head and neck.

Well, that's how I was taught, anyway.

[TheMercenary]

[Aliantha]

You should be holding your fork in your left hand and your knife in the right, and you shouldn't have to switch hands with your knife.

We've had this discussion here before about how to use your cutlery.

[bbro]

HA, yes, much better. Thanks Z.

[Undertoad]

Brit docs: £24,000 is too much for life-saving kidney medication

Patient groups said the decision, announced today by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice), would condemn many sufferers of kidney cancer to an "early death".

The four prohibited medicines include Sutent, which can prolong life in kidney cancer patients by up to two years. The draft guidance also rejects Avastin, Nexavar and Torisel.

Nice said the drugs were too expensive, at about £24,000 a year per patient, for the benefits they offered and would mean the health service was less able to afford more cost-effective drugs for other illnesses.

[classicman]

Yeah Universal Healthcare - can I have some too???

[lookout123]

but what about all the americans who have no access to medical care? what about them? think of the children you heartless bastards!