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Old 10-05-2008, 08:47 AM   #31
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We weren't encouraged to think well of Truman in the 80s, when I was studying World Powers in the 20th Century. In fact we used to call him Truman the Bastard, as a nod to William the Conqueror who was known as William the Bastard (due to a slight embarrassment as to what side of the sheets he was born on).

This was of course because he was president when the atomic bombs were dropped, effectively started the Cold War and involved the US in Korea. We saw him as pretty bloodthirsty.

However teens don't necessarily have a firm grasp on "evil that good may come of it" and I'd be willing to readdress my original opinions of him.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:55 AM   #32
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Nah, your teenage gut was right. Truman was in over his head and circumstances got the best of him. America is still paying the bill.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:58 AM   #33
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:26 AM   #34
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Nah, your teenage gut was right. Truman was in over his head and circumstances got the best of him. America is still paying the bill.
Nonsense, Harry did as well as anyone could have done, with the situation dropped in his lap, except he probably should have bombed the UN.
It was Ike that alienated Islam, which we're paying the bill for.
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:25 AM   #35
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a) according to dontvote.org I'm not allowed to vote with my 78% score
b) 10/3 O'bama
c) There isn't a candidate who can make me happy anyway. The three McCain agree answers were the ones I felt more strongly about anyway.
d) I would vote for another J Edgar Hoover if his agenda were campaign and government reform, rather than cross dressing.
Dontvote.org is interesting, but I don't think I'll take their advice because:

A: Identifying individuals by faces assumes that you are getting your news from TV or that articles contain pictures. One can know a lot about current events without ever seeing a picture of Pelosi.

B: Identifying the faces of actors should have no whatsoever on voting, except that anyone who identified Martin Sheen as POTUS should automatically be referred to Wolf and her Whitecoats.

C: The idiots who created that site judged me on knowing about celebrities and misspelled Angelina Jolie's name.
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:31 AM   #36
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He'd surely fail the quiz show format; and at the time they thought he was lousy as Pres; but history turned that around and now he's seen as one of the better ones.
And I'm sure that he was aware of current events even before going into office simply by reading some newspapers.

Since Palin has read 'all of them', she's going to be awesome.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:01 AM   #37
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A: Identifying individuals by faces assumes that you are getting your news from TV or that articles contain pictures. One can know a lot about current events without ever seeing a picture of Pelosi.
Well done you! Even with my acknowledged terrible face recognition (I thought Val Kilmer was Brad Pitt through an entire film) I still didn't click that this was primarily a recognition game. I believe I am far more clued up on international politics than this gave me credit for - and in fact I almost always matched the names to the titles correctly, but no points if you got the face wrong in the first place!
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:53 AM   #38
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And if there is a tie?

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...rpc=22&sp=true
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