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Old 10-19-2008, 02:17 PM   #1
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I am heavily involved in the rugby community. I have many friends from SA, all who live and work in the US as permanent immigrants. They are all white and more African American than any blacks I know in the US.
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Old 10-19-2008, 05:32 PM   #2
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I am heavily involved in the rugby community. I have many friends from SA, all who live and work in the US as permanent immigrants. They are all white and more African American than any blacks I know in the US.
What do you mean by African American? Urban black culture or something else?
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:48 PM   #3
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What do you mean by African American? Urban black culture or something else?
I mean that all people of color, no matter where they are from in the world, like to call themselves AA in the US. It is wrong. More wrong today than ever before. We have so many immigrants from other parts of the world who have dark skin that are lumped into the category of AA. It is wrong. If it were not wrong why wouldn't whites from SA be considered for the perks given to any person of color who claims to be AA?
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:14 PM   #4
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I mean that all people of color, no matter where they are from in the world, like to call themselves AA in the US. It is wrong. More wrong today than ever before. We have so many immigrants from other parts of the world who have dark skin that are lumped into the category of AA. It is wrong. If it were not wrong why wouldn't whites from SA be considered for the perks given to any person of color who claims to be AA?
*Chuckles* see now, Merc, I got all the way to the last sentence, and I was thinking you were coming at that from a really cool angle, and really it's about the 'perks'.
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:20 PM   #5
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*Chuckles* see now, Merc, I got all the way to the last sentence, and I was thinking you were coming at that from a really cool angle, and really it's about the 'perks'.
Don't lose hope. That was only an example of how people are being treated differently when they should not be. If I had it my no one would receive any perks.
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:25 PM   #6
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*Chuckles* see now, Merc, I got all the way to the last sentence, and I was thinking you were coming at that from a really cool angle, and really it's about the 'perks'.
Yeah, I don't see why everyone can't have coffee if they want it. Of all shades. I like mine with no sugar but a lot of milk. I guess Obama would be sort of like a latte.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:04 PM   #7
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I'm guessing he means they are more both American, i.e. assimilated into mainstream culture and yet more African, actually having been born and lived in Africa.
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:02 PM   #8
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I disagree with that. We should not be separating ourselves into groups by racial class, that is degression. I believe we should accept that race is nothing more than a social construct and work to get rid of all discrimination in that respect. If we get rid of the idea of race, we will also rid ourselves of racism as well.

I would rather label everyone in the United States as "American" but at this moment I believe that would be just sweeping the dirt under the carpet and not actually cleaning it up.
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:05 PM   #9
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I have an answer, because he's black. If you saw him on the street don't tell me you would think that he's white.
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:12 PM   #10
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I have an answer, because he's black. If you saw him on the street don't tell me you would think that he's white.
I seem to recall him answering this question once with something along the lines of: when I am hailing a cab in New York, what colour do you think I am?
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:46 PM   #11
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BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:14 PM   #12
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BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."
you would, maybe, not me.

I'd be more likely to say the tall guy with the funny ears.
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:26 PM   #13
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you would, maybe, not me.

I'd be more likely to say the tall guy with the funny ears.
Since you mentioned it - DAMN He's got big ears!
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Old 10-20-2008, 11:01 AM   #14
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Since you mentioned it - DAMN He's got big ears!


Since you mentioned it - Any truth to the rumor that he used to be employed as a radar dish on Guam?
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:46 PM   #15
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you would, maybe, not me.

I'd be more likely to say the tall guy with the funny ears.
I'm responding to the thread topic. Nobody would say "The tall white guy over there."
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