Stolen plane

[classicman]

nice non-response - good thing its the last one I'll have to read.

Just another diversion attempted by tommy, but that game has already been played out. Its time to face the reality that you have been called out and are too small a man to admit when you are wrong. You are a transparent as they come.

No emotion in that last post?
No attacks of other posters?
I'm done with you and your petty shit. Back on ignore you go. What little, if any, credibility you had is gone.
All that is left is your blatant dishonesty and hypocrisy.

[tw]

Originally Posted by dar512

Unless you've known this guy for years or you've done an in-depth background check, you don't know what mayhem this guy is capable of

Another who already did create maximum mayhem crashed his Cessna into a Tampa building. Show me the threat. He took out one office.

If a Cessna was that danagerous, then shake daily in fear of something that really is dangerous - a highjacked and stolen 18 wheeler. Why not worry about a real threat? Why so much fear of an irrelevant Cessna? Threats from that Cessna can only exist with wacko fears. Fears based in perspective would, instead, worry about real threats such as stolen tractor trailers.

Cessna crashed into a building with maximum effect. It destroyed one office. Worry far more about stolen trucks sharing a road with a school bus. If you don't worry about that every day, then logic says that Cessna was a near zero event.

Why would one waste so much bandwidth on it? Extremists fear squadrons of Cessnas massing to kill us all. Evil Russians and Chinese conspiring to destroy the electric grid. Then they can blame Pelosi.

Worry more about a heart attack. Can we blame that on Obama or McCain? Wackos would.

[tw]

Originally Posted by wackoboy

nice non-response - good thing its the last one I'll have to read.

Only threat to America was identified. You, your wacko politics, and your constant personal attacks encourage by your extremists handlers. No wonder wackoboy again will not explain what we can do to stop squadrons of Cessna massing to kill us all.

Maybe he is too busy planning his next attack on Barney Franks? Maybe he will do it with a Cessna? Naaah. That would require intelligent planning. Nothing in his political agenda tells him how to steal a Cessna.

What’s it like to have one reply as your have been doing for months? What did Rush tell you to do next?

[Undertoad]

3. Plenty of reasons for officials and experts to fear Cessnas
. 3a. Uses of the airspace not previously used, that we have not imagined
. 3b. Uses of crashes not previously used, that we have not imagined

4. No reason for general public to fear Cessnas
. 4a. Unimagined fears illogical
. 4b. More the role of officials and experts to fear such things and address them
. 4c. Nothing to fear but fear itself
. 4d. Fear is self-replicating in a psychological/biochemical sort of way
. 4e. A high state of fear in the public is harmful to practical terrorism preparation

[dar512]

Trust me. I'm from the government.

[classicman]

A Cessna 172,the model that was stolen and illegally flown into our airspace, has a useful load of 830 lb (376 kg). I wonder how much damage 830 lbs of the right explosive would do.

If it was a terrorist simply looking to cause fear, he/she could simply fly it into the path of a commercial jet and cause a collision.

For the devious mind, there are many options, but fear not all is ok. (tw says so)
I mean really what are the odds of someone attacking America? Its not like anyone would use an airplane as a weapon. That's just crazy talk.

[dar512]

Originally Posted by tw

Another who already did create maximum mayhem crashed his Cessna into a Tampa building. Show me the threat. He took out one office.

All you can think of to do with a plane is to fly it into a building?

[classicman]

"think" - lol

you're a funny guy, dar. You made me chuckle out loud.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Since an unladen Cessna flew into a building, and the building didn't fall down, Cessnas are no danger to anyone. Damn, that's Bush logic.

[tw]

Originally Posted by dar512

All you can think of to do with a plane is to fly it into a building?

If you fear one Cessna, then why do you not fear hundreds of trucks? Cessnas can do damage. So can stolen cars. But cars can do more damage. Cessnas have a long history of doing little damage when the pilot intentionally tried to maximize damage. Why do you fear the trivial and not fear what is so routine and so much more hazardous. Why do you keep avoding this question?

Dar512 - answer the question. If the Cessna is so dangerous, then why is the National Guard not called out when a truck goes missing? Why do you advocate this double standard?

[Undertoad]

Think aerosol mist bioweapons and prevailing winds.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by tw

Dar512 - answer the question. If the Cessna is so dangerous, then why is the National Guard not called out when a truck goes missing? Why do you advocate this double standard?

Hey Dar - tw asked you a question and he would like you to answer it so he can win this debate.

Welcome to our world, tw. Welcome to our world.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by classicman

If it was a terrorist simply looking to cause fear, he/she could simply fly it into the path of a commercial jet and cause a collision.

No, if a terrorist was simply looking to cause fear, he/she would bomb a grocery store/UT's suggestion/anything logical that will actually cause extreme fear.

I'm convinced the entire planes into buildings thing were more for symbolism and a point then to cause fear. Honestly, if they wanted they could put the United State's economy to a complete standstill with a few hundred people and biological weapons.

[BrianR]

Plus the fact that a Cessna has all the security of a Sears riding mower...

A small plane has the potential to injure or kill hundreds if loaded with, say, gasoline and then crashed into a large gathering of people. Perhaps a high school homecoming football game?

Some friends and I kibitzed about ways to bring the state/country to it's knees using the least number of people. People with little training or skill. I figured it would take me less than twelve men, two with first-enlistment Army training and four decent hunters, to tie up the state and bring it down. PA is an easy target if one is inclined to think that way.

The USA is a little harder because of it's size and mobility but not impossible. The best guess was two hundred men and women, broken into small cells of ten or so, led by a cell leader with mid-level military training and access to common explosives, improvised or commercial, and squad-strength weapons like M-60s, automatic rifles and grenades, would be able to cause enough mayhem to shut down the country.

This is another case of crying terrorist to sell newspapers. And to keep the population afraid of their own shadow. No, we need to just ignore that crap and refuse to be intimidated or panicked.

This was a thief, not a terrorist probe. Perhaps a person slightly unbalanced or misguided, but not a test to see what we'd do or anything.

Don't panic!

[dar512]

Originally Posted by tw

If you fear one Cessna, then why do you not fear hundreds of trucks?

If there are hundreds of trucks crossing the border unchecked, I think that's worthy of concern. Do you have a cite for this?

Originally Posted by tw

Dar512 - answer the question.

Yeah, right. Because you always answer questions that are put to you.