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07-14-2009, 01:07 AM
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The future is unwritten
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For what it's worth I agreed with you 100%, but couldn't say so because I believe I'm partly responsible. 
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07-14-2009, 02:55 AM
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trying hard to be a better person
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Oh yeah...ME!!! You just don't get much luckier than that. 
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07-14-2009, 03:07 AM
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EXTRA ... EXTRA
READ ALL ABOUT IT ... ALI GETS LUCKY WITH BRUCE! |
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07-14-2009, 05:28 AM
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trying hard to be a better person
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 that'll be the day!
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Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber |
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07-14-2009, 09:23 PM
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I hear them call the tide
Join Date: Dec 2005
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This is probably completely inappropriate at this point, but what the hell..... (more hairy than a rickroll hehe)
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The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart |
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07-14-2009, 09:58 PM
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Your Bartender
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Philly Burbs, PA
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Ahhh.. Ally Sheedy.....
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07-22-2009, 01:17 PM
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polaroid of perfection
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Yorkshire
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I came back to get contact details from my PMs.
I did think I might be sucked back in - you've been my peer group for four years after all - but in the end I only read some things that hurt me more. Again, it's no doubt my perception that's awry. Which means there's nothing to do but take a hike. There hasn't been a waking hour where I haven't thought about the Cellar. I even have a couple photos saved for you - not of me or Diz for once (a church billboard which says, "it's not all about the Sundae's?!" holy greengrocer's Batman!) But if it turns me into a bitch it's not right to be here - and I have been angry as well as upset. I have postal addresses for most of the people I care about. Anyone who wants an email or the odd postcard can PM me - I'll check my PMs occasionally. I'm being melodramatic. I know. But it hurts, and it feels real to me in a difficult time. |
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07-22-2009, 05:39 PM
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Location: Los Angeles, CA
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(Gonna get shot for that one!)
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07-23-2009, 04:13 PM
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polaroid of perfection
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Monster you can care - of course you can care. And in all the time I've known you I've accepted it and taken it on board and at times I've realised I was wrong and acknowledged you were right. But there is a line. And Dani, I do know what you mean. I know that different things are danger signs for different people - of course I do. My issue was that this was not a danger sign for me. It was not about getting into debt, not paying bills, leaving myself unable to afford basics. And neither was getting a prepacked meal from M&S and some supermarket flowers. For my parents who I love and who I'd missed. It was not tea at the Ritz. So I did feel picked on, and that my personal choices were being held up to unfair scrutiny. If I tell you I'm drinking again - yes. Come at me all guns blazing. I have a problem with drink. Even in situations where I say I've drank and controlled it, it's worth reminding me. Glatt did it to me around Christmas, and it pissed me off, and he was right. Someone (maybe even someones) raised the same issue re my cider experiment, and it pissed me off and they were right. But I am living within my means. I have savings, a small amount put by for emergencies, for the first time in a looooong time. I am paying back my debts. I've shelved my dream of having a holiday this year - I am being realistic. My parents are happy with what I contribute to the household. One person I care about is owed money by me and will be getting that at the start of August. I'm past the hurt and the personal aspect. I just don't want to have to watch every line I write here. I bought a Torchwood book this week. I want to be able to share that in the Torchwood thread. And in the What I'm Reading thread. It was second hand, and I got it out of the library before I bought it, but I don't think I should have to write that. I took some pictures in Milton Keynes this week. It was the first day out I'd had in a long time. It was pissing down rain but I walked miles and miles around the shopping centre, and chilled out in the Bucks countryside on the way there and back. The bus costs money. I don't want to have to hide that. I didn't have a McDonalds. I didn't buy the skirt I fell in love with. I didn't go to TFI Friday's for cocktails. I'm pleased with myself for that - I was tempted. I want to be able to share that. Ali is right of course. Except that I didn't take her advice. I'm not all that reformed a character - I still wanted to get my point across. I will let this go. Honest. Right now. After I've said all the above of course. |
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07-23-2009, 04:55 PM
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Snowflake
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dystopia
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In 10 words or less:
If you can't handle getting feedback, don't share stuff.
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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07-23-2009, 05:11 PM
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trying hard to be a better person
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There's been plenty of times when I've read something someone's said and have thought they've been making the wrong choices but have held my tongue (fingers) simply because it's not up to me to tell someone else they're being a knobhead, no matter how gently I might try to couch my words. There are a number of issues I feel very strongly about but which I rarely comment on simply out of respect for the other poster. There is no need to be hurtful towards someone who's already hurting. It's as simple as that. If it's good enough for one, it's good enough for all. If not, this community is not the one it claims to be.
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Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber |
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07-23-2009, 05:11 PM
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Snowflake
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Basing your happiness on other's opinions isn't a good idea.
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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07-23-2009, 08:56 PM
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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Location: Savannah, Georgia
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Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012! |
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07-22-2009, 01:43 PM
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polaroid of perfection
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Yorkshire
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You know what?
I typed all that, went away and metaphorically kicked myself in the head. Sod that. There are people I care about who I have addresses for. But there are plenty of people here I care about. I'm stupid to hide in my own hurt and cut my nose off to spite my face. And one thing I don't acccuse myself of is stupidity. I think I've got the issue out of my system - mostly. I still don't think I should be the only Dwellar called to account for irresponsibility - it occurs in many forms. If other people aren't picked up on weight issues, drug use, alcohol use etc, I don't think it's fair if I have to think every time I post about my personal life either. And let's face it, 99.9% of what I post about is my personal life. But I need to grow a thicker skin, stand up for myself more without collapsing into tears. And IF I have to justify what I spend, I will do - after a while, other Dwellars will be bored by it and ask questions as to why it's necessary. Mostly I've been hurting because I've been away. And yes, that's melodramatic too. You's an addiction. |
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07-22-2009, 01:56 PM
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Location: Arlington, VA
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I'm glad you are back.
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