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Old 04-24-2006, 09:48 PM   #1
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What is considered decent or indecent is largely fashion. Early part of last century, "indecent" would include racial intermarriage, skirts above the knee, the word "swell", women in the workplace, etc.

A great deal has changed and much for the better. So as long as what is specifically considered "indecent" is not encoded into law, I'm in agreement here.

We shall not teach the children "indecent" things.

We shall decide on what is "indecent" by vote of representative school boards, elected in free and open elections.

I'm down with that. Done and done.
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Old 04-24-2006, 10:54 PM   #2
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What is considered decent or indecent is largely fashion. Early part of last century, "indecent" would include racial intermarriage, skirts above the knee, the word "swell", women in the workplace, etc.
You want to teach seven year olds about "racial" marriage:p? Fine. Skirts above the knee? Swell. Women in the workplace? Well, ok. Homosexuality? I don't think so. Again, it's interesting how you all think you know what's better for a child than their own parents.

What is c/w, cunt wailing? I'll pass.
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:09 PM   #3
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:33 PM   #4
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You still haven't responded to Happy Monkey's request to

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explain why the two princes are indecent, while Rapunzel isn't.
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:44 PM   #5
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I agree with Happy Monkey and Torrere, please explain how showing and telling about love between two men are indecent and despicable, but showing and telling about love between a man and a woman is fine and dandy.

For that matter, explain how showing love between two men is worse than showing hatred between anybody.
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Old 04-25-2006, 02:05 AM   #6
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I agree with Happy Monkey and Torrere, please explain how showing and telling about love between two men are indecent and despicable, but showing and telling about love between a man and a woman is fine and dandy.

For that matter, explain how showing love between two men is worse than showing hatred between anybody.
Let's see. Love between a man and a woman is normal. Love between two men is...Abby something.
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Old 04-25-2006, 07:28 AM   #7
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Let's see. Love between a man and a woman is normal.
So what? The question was why is one less decent, not whether one is more common.
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Old 04-25-2006, 12:34 AM   #8
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I declare that all mention of anything involving violence or malicious intent should be removed from all schools. I can't have my (potential) children exposed to the thought of someone wanting to hurt someone else! History may no longer make any mention of wars, assassinations, fights, or anything. It's just not decent for my child to know people kill other people! (/mockery)
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Old 04-25-2006, 02:30 AM   #9
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So are you prejudiced againt everything that isn't normal, or just certain things?
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:38 AM   #10
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Obviously Jordon's learned his debating chops in other, easier fora where everyone agrees with him. :-)
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:07 AM   #11
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*sigh* I love trolls.
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:34 AM   #12
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You insist that children should never even be told that homosexual couples exist?
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I never said that. I said that seven year olds should not be exposed to it.
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:45 AM   #13
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Jordon, for the third (or is it fourth?) time, please answer me LOGICALLY and REASONABLY.
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I agree with Happy Monkey and Torrere, please explain how showing and telling about love between two men are indecent and despicable, but showing and telling about love between a man and a woman is fine and dandy.

For that matter, explain how showing love between two men is worse than showing hatred between anybody.
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:51 AM   #14
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Jordon, for the third (or is it fourth?) time, please answer me LOGICALLY and REASONABLY.
Seven. Year. Olds. Do. Not. Need. To. Know. About. Homosexuality.

"Despicable" is your word. I never said it.
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Old 04-25-2006, 09:32 AM   #15
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Seven. Year. Olds. Do. Not. Need. To. Know. About. Homosexuality.
My 6 year old daughter has a classmate with a lesbian mother. The kids are in Brownies together and the mom is one of the leaders. The mom and her partner are both very nice and are great with kids. My daughter just thinks her friend has two moms. She seems to not even notice that their family is different from ours. She's not thinking "well, I know my Dad puts his penis inside my Mom, so what do these two moms do for fun?" She's just playing with her friend.

I would say that kids younger than 7 need to know about all the different types of families out there. Doesn't mean they have to learn all the sexual stuff. It's about love. Not sex.
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