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Old 10-20-2006, 11:21 AM   #46
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Anyone who does not have a gun will be provided one. Then no crimes would occur.
Not everyone at an NFL game is legally eligible to posess a firearm.

How about you, tw? Don't dodge this question again: are you eligible to posess a firearm, or do you just want to disarm everybody else?

Remeber involuntary mental committments or felony records make you ineligible.
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:01 PM   #47
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You keep trying to conflate "gun related deaths" with violent crime against innocents.

How many of your "gun related deaths" are two drug dealers shooting at each other over money or territory? Who won't be deterred because "guns are illegal" any more than they are by "drugs are illegal"?
How many are three yaer olds innocents who shoot themselves?
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:06 PM   #48
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Depends on how many people are slack and bad parents and leave out a loaded gun. No different than leaving ammonia or drain-o out where a kid can drink it... should we outlaw that too?
With guns there is NEVER just this once or I'll just get this call... NEVER.
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:11 PM   #49
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Total bullshit story...which has already changed several times. The victim's nine-year-old brother was in the room; you'll have trouble convincing me he wasn't the triggerman.
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:13 PM   #50
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Depends on how many people are slack and bad parents...
Bad parents? In Philly? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:39 PM   #51
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Total bullshit story...which has already changed several times. The victim's nine-year-old brother was in the room; you'll have trouble convincing me he wasn't the triggerman.
Does that change the point? Your fantasyland where only good, sensible, law-abiding, pacifist, dead-eye, safety conscious, folks with perfect judgement will have guns is a farce. Criminals will have guns and kill innocents. Children will get hold of guns and kill innocents. Legal gun owners will have accidents, and use poor judgement, and become criminal and kill innocents. Insane people will get guns and kill innocents. All this so that You can have your gun - but not use it unless.....well.... you won't say. Others have said that they would be able to accurately judge when a situation becomes life-threatening, and use their gun successfully to save their lives and/or the lives of their family. But they wouldn't shoot too soon, and kill an innocent. Sorry. That is BULLSHIT! Either you are prudent, and the aggressor gets the drop on you, or you're going to kill somebody that means you no harm. You can't be perfect all the time.

The only way to stop all this weapon related killing would be to remove handguns from the environment. When you say that some killing is good and cite drug dealer vs drug dealer, I maintain that this type of killing would probably continue. It seems to me that these folks would not blanch at stabbing or bludgeoning their victim.
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:40 PM   #52
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Bad parents? In Philly? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.
Yeah, you (and I mean only you) would think that this doesn't happen in Gladwyn, huh?
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:13 PM   #53
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-- well, it's the empty pot that sounds the loudest, isn't it?
What about the pot full of nitroglycerin? I mean, assuming that you have to rap the pot sharply to get it to produce any sound at all, wouldn't the resulting explosion be rather louder than the mere ring of an empty pot? I mean, I'm just askin'...
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:25 PM   #54
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So... what do you do with people with pools?
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:27 PM   #55
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So... what do you do with people with pools?
They wouldn't be allowed to have kids, or have any company over, or go in their own backyard?
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:33 PM   #56
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LOL... no shit. Should we cane them?
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:48 PM   #57
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When you say that some killing is good and cite drug dealer vs drug dealer, I maintain that this type of killing would probably continue. It seems to me that these folks would not blanch at stabbing or bludgeoning their victim.
Exactly why I want to keep my guns, despite your warm-fuzzy do-gooder rant...because their victims aren't always other addicts; sometimes they're comitting robbery, rape, or burglary.
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:49 PM   #58
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Yeah, you (and I mean only you) would think that this doesn't happen in Gladwyn, huh?
OK...how many three-year-olds shot themselves in Gladwyne this year?
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:51 PM   #59
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I let my son use his trike with no helmet...
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:51 PM   #60
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wouldn't the resulting explosion be rather louder than the mere ring of an empty pot? I mean, I'm just askin'...
You're overlooking the fact that the pot is in the process of emptying itself. By the time you heard the noise, it's empty.

Besides, the original catchphrase involves kettles, as I recall. :-)
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