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Old 11-27-2007, 12:36 PM   #46
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Not at all; what do you think agnosticism is?
Atheism:
A-non, theist-believer in a god.
Agnostics are atheists, they just don't like the word.
Most Buddhists, many Wiccans, agnostics, Brights, non-theists, undecideds, all of them... if they don't actively believe in a god they are an atheist.
Sam Harris has been a whiny little bitch about the word lately... it is just an accurate description.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:38 PM   #47
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gideons don't literally go room to room replacing every bible. hotel employees do. gideons provide the bibles free of charge and have asked the hotel owners and management to place them there.
I have been at a hotel when the Gideons came and place the bibles in the rooms.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:09 PM   #48
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The weed you're smokin must be affecting your memory - you have taken plenty of shots at religion.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:17 PM   #49
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I have taken shots at tactics of organized religion, not belief.
I have stated many times that I do not care what an individual believes, just what they do with it. I am married to a theist.
I have not smoked for a long time and it is irrelevant to this, ad hominem as usual.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:28 PM   #50
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I wish I didn't have a life and could just pull up and cite them for you - Political reference about the elections, schools teachings.... please.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:56 PM   #51
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All about organized religion, abuse of authority, hypocrisy of the org in authority harming those it purports to help and those using their beliefs to breech the separation of church and state.
None about individual belief.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:58 PM   #52
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so what you are saying is that every gideon bible placed in every hotel room across america is placed there by a gideon?

and, out of curiousity, did the gideon bitchslap you, tie you to your chair, and force you to read the bible?
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:02 PM   #53
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I had gideon sex
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:06 PM   #54
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didn't we have a thread about gideon sex? oh wait, that was "giddyup" sex. *still queasy at thought of LJ with feather duster hanging from ass*
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:07 PM   #55
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so what you are saying is that every gideon bible placed in every hotel room across america is placed there by a gideon?

and, out of curiousity, did the gideon bitchslap you, tie you to your chair, and force you to read the bible?
Nothing I posted even implied anything you stated in any way.
Normal for you, as ever.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:14 PM   #56
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let's go back.
you stated that gideons put the bibles in the rooms. i stated that gideons provided them but they don't go room to room replacing each one as needed. your response was that you had seen it happen thereby implying that they do in fact go room to room. (funny how you have personally done or witnessed every freaking thing to ever occur )

i have not been in every hotel in america so i can't say that it is this way everywhere, but my two clients who own hotels do have their employees replace the ones missing when the clean the rooms. and i have seen them on the cleaning carts in other hotels so i would take that to mean that hotel staff is prepared to replace them as needed at the direction of the owners.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:34 PM   #57
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you stated that gideons put the bibles in the rooms.
Yes, either they do it themselves, room-to-room which I have personally seen, I never stated I know how often this occurs but do know it does or they get staff to.
You chose to assume I meant they always do with nothing to support it.
I implied nothing.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:35 PM   #58
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The hotel manager gave them universal room keys?
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:38 PM   #59
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Not sure. They knocked on my door and they were entering the other, unoccupied rooms. They had a cart with bibles, I asked if they were gideons and talked with one for a while.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:40 PM   #60
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i hope you didn't try to proselytize them. that would be rude.

but if i was a hotel manager/owner i'd have a hard time handing over a universal room key to someone just because they have a cart of bibles. i think the liability would be pretty high there.
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