Bush deals nukes to the Saudis

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I don't think they have the balls to actually use one as the retaliation would be devastating ...

Which was the reasoning just before a Cuban Missile Crisis. We learned the world came right to the edge - almost launched all nuclear weapons - because logic gets lost in the emotional heat of hate.

One fact learned from the "Missiles of October" is that one must always be talking to everyone - especially one's enemies. So many people (including America's dumbest president while in Israel) never learned this making nuclear weapons so dangerous and reducing the power of retaliation (power as defined in a policy called MAD).

Why were India and Pakistan so close to nuclear war? They stopped talking to one another. Clinton's diplomacy may have stopped a nuclear war that was only hours away.

Well, a country lead by a scumbag president will not talk even to perceived enemies. Those enemies therefore need nuclear weapons AND may not worry about retaliation. Retaliation has significance if all sides are talking. Without talk, then the heat of hate takes hold - anything can happen.

Only valid source that Americans have for Iran's intentions is the UN. If the UN is worried, then Americans should worry.

[TheMercenary]

yea, they may be able to shut us down. And no more curry...

[classicman]

Wow!

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

Wow!

Pass the popcorn. Just wondering what the Three Stoogers will come up with this time.

[lookout123]

/dancer kid/ Uh, like you totally got served dude! /dancer kid/


enjoy your popcorn putz.

[TheMercenary]

Oh please.... :roll: (btw, The Atlantic did a fantastic in depth report on how this guy did his dirty deeds and how everyone found out it was him)

Pakistani Nuclear Scientist Denies Selling Secrets
By ALAN COWELL

Published: May 31, 2008

PARIS — Abdul Qadeer Khan, the creator of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program, was reported on Friday to have withdrawn an admission that he sold nuclear technology to Iran, North Korea and Libya, saying that he had made it under pressure from President Pervez Musharraf.

He made the comment in a telephone interview with a correspondent in Islamabad, Pakistan’s capital, from The Guardian, a British newspaper, which called the conversation his first with the Western media since an emotional television appearance in 2004 in which Dr. Khan admitted selling nuclear technology to other countries.

“It was not of my own free will,” he told The Guardian, saying he had been forced to make the admission by President Musharraf. “It was handed into my hand,” he was quoted as saying

Western intelligence agencies fear that any technology passed on by Dr. Khan could be used by terrorists. But in the interview he maintained his longstanding resistance to being questioned by investigators from the International Atomic Energy Agency or the United States. .

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/31/wo...html?ref=world

[TheMercenary]

May 30, 2008
Reality Check on the Mullahs
By Amil Imani
There is so much smoke around the Iranian Mullahs' bomb that it makes Tehran's smog feel like a fresh ocean breeze by comparison. Here is a partial list of misconceptions about the Mullahs, their capabilities and intentions about the bomb affair.


The Mullahs:

* Will never dare to use the bomb, even if they had it. To do so would be suicidal.
* Are years away from anything resembling a credible bomb, in any quantity.
* They lack the technological skills needed to make a workable bomb.
* Don't have the means of hitting Israel with the bomb, their professed favorite target.
* Want the bomb for defensive purposes only.
* Would never hand the bomb over to proxy terrorists.
* Are using this whole bomb thing as a ploy to rally the populace and survive.
* Are visionary patriots planning for a future when the oil dries up.
* Are environmentalists aiming to curb global warming caused by the use of fossil fuel.
* Are striving to join the nuclear club for its prestige.


And on, and on, and on, goes the litany. I believe, based on facts rather than wishful thinking, that every one of the above assertions, as well as all other similar dismissive arguments, are both false and fraught with danger because all the above arguments are confounded by various amounts of denial.

Psychological denial is a common quirk of the human mind. People use denial to distort, even refute reality, when accepting it is too threatening to them. Alcoholics are habitual users of denial, a major tranquilizer of the mind. The alcoholic will adamantly deny having any problem with alcohol and continue to drink, even in the face of irrefutable contrary evidence. Denial is resorted to by both individuals and groups, and can be just as deadly for both.

continues:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...e_mullahs.html

[Undertoad]

WSJ Editorial: Why is Bush helping Saudi Arabia Build Nukes? Edward Markey (D-Mass)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121305642257659301.html

The Bush administration argues that Saudi Arabia can not be compared to Iran, because Riyadh said it won't develop uranium enrichment or spent-fuel reprocessing, the two most dangerous nuclear technologies. At a recent hearing before my Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman shrugged off concerns about potential Saudi misuse of nuclear assistance for a weapons program, saying simply: "I presume that the president has a good deal of confidence in the King and in the leadership of Saudi Arabia."

That's not good enough. We would do well to remember that it was the U.S. who provided the original nuclear assistance to Iran under the Atoms for Peace program, before Iran's monarch was overthrown in the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Such an uprising in Saudi Arabia today could be at least as damaging to U.S. security.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Hmm. One should keep in mind the number of Iranian nuclear reactors constructed under the auspices of Atoms for Peace.

Well, hey, I've heard of Atoms for Peace... long ago, and briefly, and I've heard it dissed too...

So what was it all about, Alpher, Bethe, Gamov...?