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Old 12-10-2008, 12:48 PM   #1
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OK, i missed the 30 minute mark, but to be fair TW was replying to this thread before he logged off to complete his mom's to do list.
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:49 PM   #2
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You can mail me the 20.
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:55 PM   #3
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:57 PM   #4
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I found it! Thanks buddy!
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:08 PM   #5
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:50 PM   #6
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I might also point out that you are conversing with someone who writes for a living. It is my business to be clear and concise. I have even done some tech writing.

And I am thankful for people like TW. People like him guarantee that I will remain gainfully employed for many years to come.

I have to apologize, TW and everyone else. I was wrong. I forgot that I did install additional memory at some point. I'm up to 768 MB right now. I'll put the new 1GB card in the 256MB slot and things should be pretty zippy. Forgive me - I probably did it about this time last year, which is when my mom died, and that time in my life is pretty much a blur.

I still don't know why I'm having trouble with IE and Firefox. They work, but scroll really slowly. I don't seem to have that problem with other apps.

BTW, the perceived insult was here:

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Since anything in Task Manger makes no sense to you, then it is probably THE fact that gets a solution, when posted here.
Kind of a rude assumption, don't you think?

TW, by chance, do you have Aspergers or something? Your posts look astonishingly similar to an Aspie guy I used to know on another discussion board. That would explain a lot.
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:08 PM   #7
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I forgot that I did install additional memory at some point. I'm up to 768 MB right now. I'll put the new 1GB card in the 256MB slot and things should be pretty zippy.
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TW, by chance, do you have Aspergers or something? Your posts look astonishingly similar to an Aspie guy I used to know on another discussion board.
Now what does the crucial.com scanner report? What you believe exists is best confirmed by what the scanner also reports. Why? I have something like seven unresolved questions about that additional memory as well as the routine procedure of confirming everything.

No aspergers. But having done this stuff for numerous generations (not decades - generations), I have long learned to eliminate and ignore all personalization when attacking a technical problem. Again, some of the best problem solvers (like some of the best written manuals) eliminate what has no place in technical discussions and solutions - "I", "We", "You", etc. Those words only appear when things such as personal speculations or human interaction are relevant to the subject.

When I choose to personalize, well, I read others ask if I am the same person. When personalizing, my posts are different because the necessary thinking process is completely different. This is a technical discussion which means "I" and "you" are removed from every paragraph whenever possible. (well I slipped there a little and brought religion into it. I apologize for letting god apply some input.)

Again, does not matter whether you ordered UT's memory or not. Post 4 still required the crucial.com scanner because, well, without doing homework before coming to class, then you have no place in the classroom. As I stated before, based upon the subjective posts, I do not believe insufficient memory is the only problem. I can say nothing because - your help remains shorted (stifled) of necessary facts.
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:18 PM   #8
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tw - You seem like a fairly intelligent guy with a lot of knowledge in technical areas. It's too bad that you come off as a pompous twit because you could be really helpful to lots of folks here.
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You admit that my post was easy to read and user friendly. That's the point. If the writing style of your post makes it so difficult to read that nobody gets information out of it, then it's pointless to post it.
Outstanding - Well put and easily read and understood.
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~~~ eliminate what has no place in technical discussions and solutions - "I", "We", "You", etc. Those words only appear when things such as personal speculations or human interaction are relevant to the subject.
This a board where humans interact and communicate with one and other. It is impossible to remove the interaction of humans - that what we are doing - Interacting. When problem solving with another human the interaction part is a requirement too and therefore germane and integral to achieving the final desired result - getting the problem solved.
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:06 PM   #9
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the #1 reason why we fix things - to teach.
I would venture a guess that some, if not a vast majority of people would fix things because they were broken. But hey, thats just me.
The learning part is a huge bonus though!
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:26 PM   #10
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I would venture a guess that some, if not a vast majority of people would fix things because they were broken.
If true, then everyone take everything to the shop. The shop always (if economically viable in a free market) solves problems faster, cheaper, and better. Why do we fix things? First to learn. If we only wanted to fix things, then we take everything to the shop.

Why, for example, do I have a grasp of automobile technology or some grasp of a management technique sometimes called quality? How to think - how to zero in on the problem - comes from the training obtained from - for example - fixing a sewing machine when I was 11 or fixing TVs when I was 13.

Posted previously is a concept that so many never grasp. Too many want to fix things immediately - and therefore make things worse. Too many don't learn how to identify the suspect long before trying to fix anything. A lesson I learned, for example, by making that mistake on household electric wiring. First and foremost - we fix things to learn how to think. The concept also called 'learning by doing'.

Why graduate everyone from military academies with engineering knowledge? They need people who know how to think logically - to grasp reality - not someone who knows how to invent fiction. Anybody can invent fiction. Lying (being politically correct - telling someone what they want to hear) comes too naturally to some. But zeroing in on an irrefutible fact is extremely difficult - often best achieved by the few such as Greene of IT&T or Jack Welch of GE.

Learning how to think through a problem is tempered by how reality works ... well we still have Juniper's hot computer problem. Why? Bad temper?
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:32 PM   #11
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If true, then everyone take everything to the shop. The shop always (if economically viable in a free market) solves problems faster, cheaper, and better. Why do we fix things? First to learn. If we only wanted to fix things, then we take everything to the shop.
Not true. As I posted elsewhere, I recently got a quote of $117 to fix my daughter's cell phone. I fixed it myself with a $14 part. Most people DIY because it is cheaper. Do I really care about learning how to fix cell phones? Not really, unless it saves me money to fix one again.
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:36 PM   #12
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Not true. As I posted elsewhere, I recently got a quote of $117 to fix my daughter's cell phone. I fixed it myself with a $14 part. Most people DIY because it is cheaper. Do I really care about learning how to fix cell phones?
No. What you learned was more than just about cell phones. Or you learned that by fixing something else. Now what you learned has been expanded to include how cell phones work. Necessary details to prove your point are missing. However, if a shop charged an outrageous $100+ to fix a $14 problem, you have learned there is a problem with cell phone shops, or that cell phone dealer, or ... well you tell me.

So how long did it take to discover that a $14 part was required? You knew immediately? Or did you have to go shopping at your time worth how many dollars per hour? Insufficient facts are provided to confirm or deny your conclusion. Your conclusion does not provide the always necessary supporting details. So your conclusion goes into another box labeled 'unknown and unverified'. I cannot give your claim any credence (or respect or whatever it might be called) because it arrives without the necessary supporting details - the required reasons why.

I periodically fix other's computers for peanuts or nothing. Why? Many times to simply learn that what I knew still applies to current technology. That is the only reason I fix their machines. In a few cases, (due to my mistake) I paid $40 or $80 to correct my mistake. I didn't charge. I learned an expensive lesson - or in one case learned that hardware weakness still exists.
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:45 PM   #13
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No. What you learned was more than just about cell phones. Or you learned that by fixing something else. Now what you learned has been expanded to include how cell phones work. Necessary details to prove your point are missing. However, if a shop charged an outrageous $100+ to fix a $14 problem, you have learned there is a problem with cell phone shops, or that cell phone dealer, or ... well you tell me.

So how long did it take to discover that a $14 part was required? You knew immediately? Or did you have to go shopping at your time worth how many dollars per hour? Insufficient facts are provided to confirm or deny your conclusion. Your conclusion does not provide the always necessary supporting details. So your conclusion goes into another box labeled 'unknown and unverified'. I cannot give your claim any credence (or respect or whatever it might be called) because it arrives without the necessary supporting details - the required reasons why.
It was fairly obvious that the only problem was the LCD screen, because the phone was otherwise operational. I googled "cell phone repair" and asked for a quote from a shop. Then I figured, well, repair shops have to get their parts somewhere, right? I googled "LCD Screen Sony Ericsson W580i" and found it for $4 on eBay. Ta-da! It's just like replacing a memory card in the computer.

The repair shop - any shop - has to pay its employees. That is why you pay $100 for a repair that just needs a $10 part - the other $90 is labor. Same goes with car repair. I don't know how to put on new brake pads, so I have to pay someone who does, even though those pads might only cost $20. I could learn, if I was so inclined.

Granted the knowledge gained does translate to other areas -- if I learned how to fix the cell phone, or how to find out how to fix the cell phone, by putting memory in my PC through the years, I guess that would go along with your point. But I can't agree with the cause and effect here. I didn't put memory cards in my PC so I would know how to fix other things in the future, like the cell phone. I did it so I could have a faster PC without paying someone else to do it.
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:42 AM   #14
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snip~ I periodically fix other's computers for peanuts or nothing. Why? Many times to simply learn that what I knew still applies to current technology. That is the only reason I fix their machines. ~snip
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:28 PM   #15
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Oh, okay, fine. Never let it be said that I am not forthcoming with facts. (sigh)

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Currently installed memory:


256MB
DDR PC3200
512MB
DDR PC3200



Each memory slot can hold DDR PC3200 with a maximum of 1GB per slot.*

# Maximum Memory Capacity: 2048MB
# Currently Installed Memory: 768MB
# Available Memory Slots: 0
# Number of Banks: 2
# Dual Channel Support: No
# CPU Manufacturer: AuthenticAMD
# CPU Family: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3100+ Model 12, Stepping 0
# CPU Speed: 1800 MHz
Crucial.com says to put in two 1GB memory cards. Bingo.
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